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Just Bought New Rims (PICS INSIDE)

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Posted by: MarkVIIIcominsoon

So i ordered these rims last week from discountedwheelwarehouse.com and decided to put them on yesterday and take pics. They are 20 inch Giovanna Sabinas.



Posted by: Frogman

eh....



Posted by: mark0101

I like it



Posted by: MarkVIIIcominsoon

Thanks MARK01



Posted by: Scorpio1118_2000

bling bling baby!! It looks good.



Posted by: MachVIII

Blingin' on the block!



Posted by: Iszi

Meh... The rims *are* nice, but too much blingage for the Mark. Just my opinion.



Posted by: GMAN

You know, for me that is too much bling for me. You like it though, that is all that matters. Me, I plan to go no bigger than 18's



Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Yeah WAY too much bling-a-bling bling for me, especially with all the factory chrome and that grill. Tooo too much going on. If all the chrome was PTM it might work, but hey if you like them then thats all that matters.



Posted by: unity

Post some more pics when you lower it! I think that will help the look A LOT!



Posted by: Doc

If you put some drop on it things would look better. The wheels are nice. Are you not worried about all the salt that your city puts on the roads eating up your wheels?



Posted by: Stack

Mos def need a drop... I like they are 20's but you need to color match some other parts of your car to offset all that CHROME!

I don't like the style but to each his own!!!



Posted by: dnehthend

yeah, bring the car down a bit



Posted by: jdlmkviii

Not something I would buy, but I think it looks pretty good... that car is screamin for a drop though.



Posted by: MediumD

Yes it does need lowering to even think about pulling those off.



Posted by: isaiah3g

DROP IT!

Isaiah3g



Posted by: MarkVIIIcominsoon

Thanks everybody ill probably drop it in the summer and i like all the chrome plus the ladies here in detroit do too lol i think all the chrome makes it look better to me. I see were most of you guys are coming from but im only 20 so i like the Bling .



Posted by: pepperman

Dayummmmmm Just the right amount of bling bling for me very cool.



Posted by: Dominus

That a great style for Camden, New Jersey or the South Bronx.



Posted by: chriswells78

Wouldn't be my first choice for a muscle car. Probably not my twentieth either.



Posted by: rmac694203

Good thing he didn't put them on a muscle car.



Posted by: chriswells78

Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac694203 View Post
Good thing he didn't put them on a muscle car.
Mark 8 is a modern muscle car...

Maybe you need schooled on the definition of a muscle car?

From Wikipedia

The term muscle car generally describes a rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful engine (typically, although not universally, a V8 engine) and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition. It is distinguished from sports cars, which were customarily and coincidentally considered smaller, two-seat cars, or GTs, two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring and possibly road racing. High-performance full-size or compact cars are arguably excluded from this category, as are the breed of compact sports coupes inspired by the Ford Mustang, the "pony car". Another factor used in defining a classic muscle cars is age and country of origin. A classic muscle car is usually but not necessarily made in the US or Australia between 1964 and 1975.

RWD...check
Mid size...check
Powerful engine/V8...check
Special Trim...check
Better for drag racing than road racing...check
American or Austrailan...check



Posted by: kustomizingkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by chriswells78 View Post
Mark 8 is a modern muscle car...

Maybe you need schooled on the definition of a muscle car?

From Wikipedia

The term muscle car generally describes a rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful engine (typically, although not universally, a V8 engine) and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition. It is distinguished from sports cars, which were customarily and coincidentally considered smaller, two-seat cars, or GTs, two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring and possibly road racing. High-performance full-size or compact cars are arguably excluded from this category, as are the breed of compact sports coupes inspired by the Ford Mustang, the "pony car". Another factor used in defining a classic muscle cars is age and country of origin. A classic muscle car is usually but not necessarily made in the US or Australia between 1964 and 1975.

RWD...check
Mid size...check
Powerful engine/V8...check
Special Trim...check
Better for drag racing than road racing...check
American or Austrailan...check
I would dare you to tell this to my friend Justin, he would rip you to peices and then drive over you with his 69 Camaro, which is a muscle car.

A lot of people argue what was the first muscle car was, but I garuntee you that they will all agree that the last one was made a long long long time ago.

By the way the Mark VIII is an LSC, Luxury Sport Coupe.



Posted by: rmac694203

Believe what you want, the Mark is not a muscle car in my eyes. If you want to put the Mark in the same class as Mustangs, Camaros, T/A's, etc. that is your business.



Posted by: Dominus

A Mustang is not a muscle car.

A Camaro is not a muscle car.

A T/A is not a muscle car.

All three are pony cars, not muscle cars. Make sure you have properly identified a muscle car before criticizing another's identification.

Quote:
[edit] Defining the class
The Mustang provided the template for the new class of automobiles. Although it was based on the platform of the Falcon, it had a unique body (offered as a hardtop coupé and a convertible) with distinctive, "long hood, short deck" proportions. In basic form it was mechanically mundane, with a 170 cu. in. (2.8L) six-cylinder engine and three-speed manual transmission. It carried an attractive base price of $2,368, and had an extensive option list offering a range of V8 engines, Cruise-O-Matic automatic transmission or four-speed manual, radios, air conditioning, power steering, and other accessories. A V8 Mustang with all available options would cost about 60% more than a basic Six, which made it an extremely profitable model for Ford.

The requirements were therefore set:

Attractive, sporty styling
Affordable base price
Extensive options, including six-cylinder and V8 engines
Aggressive, youth-oriented marketing and advertising.
While most of the pony cars offered more powerful engines and performance packages, enough to qualify some as muscle cars, a substantial number were sold with six-cylinder engines or mundane, "cooking" V8s, with the high-performance models largely limited to drag racing, road racing, or racing homologation purposes.


[edit] Pony car competitors
Despite the immediate success of the Mustang, many (including some within Ford) feared that the bubble would soon burst, and other manufacturers were relatively slow to respond. The first competitor was the Plymouth Barracuda, which actually went on sale on April 1, 1964, about two weeks before the Mustang. The Barracuda was not a direct response to the Mustang, which had not yet debuted (although Chrysler was certainly aware of the upcoming model), but a low-cost way to expand the sporty appeal of the Valiant. Chrysler's precarious financial situation meant that the Barracuda was compromised, with insufficient distinction from the Valiant and styling that drew mixed reactions; its sales were a fraction of the Mustang's. (Some mentioned then if the Barracuda was successful, the term for this class of automobile might have been "fish car," rather than "pony car.")[1] [2] [3] [4]

Initially, General Motors believed that the restyled 1965 Corvair would be an adequate challenger for the Mustang, but when it became clear that the Corvair itself was doomed, the more conventional Chevrolet Camaro was introduced, going on sale for the 1967 model year, at the time the Mustang was entering its second generation. They were presently joined by the Camaro-based Pontiac Firebird, the Mercury Cougar, and, in 1968, the AMC Javelin. Dodge joined the party belatedly with the 1970 Dodge Challenger, an enlarged version of the Barracuda.




Posted by: rmac694203

Fine. It's just that when I think of a muscle car, I definitely don't think Mark VIII. And when I think of a Mark VIII, I would never use the term 'muscle car' to describe it. To each their own.



Posted by: kustomizingkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominus View Post
A Mustang is not a muscle car.

A Camaro is not a muscle car.

A T/A is not a muscle car.

All three are pony cars, not muscle cars. Make sure you have properly identified a muscle car before criticizing another's identification.
I would have to completly disagree with you too.

Pony cars and Muscle cars are the same thing in most instances, the Camaro and Mustang are at the heart of the Muslce car era. You can call them Pony cars but they are also muscle cars through and through.



Posted by: Dominus

Quote:
Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
I would have to completly disagree with you too.

Pony cars and Muscle cars are the same thing in most instances, the Camaro and Mustang are at the heart of the Muslce car era. You can call them Pony cars but they are also muscle cars through and through.

Wrong.

A muscle car was a car with a very powerful (and usually large) engine that made no sacrifices in size, comfortability, options, trunk space, etc etc and were designed almost exclusively for straight line performance. The first muscle car was the Chrysler 300, and the next was the Chevrolet Impala.

This sharp differentiation came about because up until then, power only came in a small package.

The Mustang, Camaro, and T/A, with their tiny little forms, and back seats that couldn't seat an infant hardly qualify as muscle cars. The fact that there were made with packages that homologated them exclusively for road racing is a big disqualifier too.

All three cars came at the tail end of the muscle car era. When the Hemi, Cammer, 409, Wedge, and most of the other legendary muscle car engines came out, the Mustang hadn't even been released.



Posted by: chriswells78

^^^^ +1

and
Quote:
Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
By the way the Mark VIII is an LSC, Luxury Sport Coupe.
LSC is a trim/option package contrary to popular belief.



Posted by: buddylee

I don't think that those are snow tires ? If it was me I'd keep stock rims in the winter.

very nice .

Mark VIII = muscle car



Posted by: chickenviii

Quote:
Originally Posted by chriswells78 View Post
Mid size...check
actually FoMoCo recognizes the mark viii as a full size, FN-10 (full size north America) where a thunderbird is a mid size MN-12 (mid size north America) so i guess the 6 inches really DOES make a difference



Posted by: buddylee

by the way ..... what size are those tires?? I can't see the size



Posted by: kustomizingkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominus View Post
Wrong.

A muscle car was a car with a very powerful (and usually large) engine that made no sacrifices in size, comfortability, options, trunk space, etc etc and were designed almost exclusively for straight line performance. The first muscle car was the Chrysler 300, and the next was the Chevrolet Impala.

This sharp differentiation came about because up until then, power only came in a small package.

The Mustang, Camaro, and T/A, with their tiny little forms, and back seats that couldn't seat an infant hardly qualify as muscle cars. The fact that there were made with packages that homologated them exclusively for road racing is a big disqualifier too.

All three cars came at the tail end of the muscle car era. When the Hemi, Cammer, 409, Wedge, and most of the other legendary muscle car engines came out, the Mustang hadn't even been released.
I would chalenge you to find any two experts that agree on the first "Muscle" Car. Some people says it's the Hudson Hornet, others say it's the Impala, and a dozen others.

The only thing that I can say is the Mark VIII is not a muscle car, plain and simple.



Posted by: kustomizingkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by chriswells78 View Post
^^^^ +1

and


LSC is a trim/option package contrary to popular belief.
Yes it is an upgraded trim package on 95-98 Mark VIII's. It is also the best way to sum up what a Mark VIII is.

Luxury, Leather, airide, etc.

Sport, quad cam engine, rear wheel drive, etc.

Coupe, it is a two door coupe body style.



Posted by: 95Pred8r

I normally stay out of these discussions, but on this one I need to jump in.

Pony cars are not technically muscle cars. That doesn't make them any less badass. They just are in their own category. I thought it was very cool to see a definition of " muscle car". It basically confirmed everything I learned growing up as to what a muscle car is. I bought my Mark VIII specifically because I wanted a modern muscle car.

The Mark VIII is a "modern"(albeit out of production) muscle car.



Posted by: Stack

Wow... way to hijack his thread guys!



Posted by: chriswells78

Quote:
Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
Yes it is an upgraded trim package on 95-98 Mark VIII's. It is also the best way to sum up what a Mark VIII is.

Luxury, Leather, airide, etc.

Sport, quad cam engine, rear wheel drive, etc.

Coupe, it is a two door coupe body style.

So what God gave you the right to categorze automobiles? I'm glad you have an opinion, but it's worth about as much as my period key.



Posted by: kustomizingkid

You are catagorizing the cars too, so I'm just geussing that you like your opinion better than mine.

I guess my definition of a Muscle Car is diffierent than yours, I will continue with my incorect thinking and keep on calling Mustangs and Camaros Muscle Cars.



Posted by: chriswells78

Quote:
Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
You are catagorizing the cars too, so I'm just geussing that you like your opinion better than mine.

I guess my definition of a Muscle Car is diffierent than yours, I will continue with my incorect thinking and keep on calling Mustangs and Camaros Muscle Cars.
I backed mine up with a respected and trusted source of information. I have seen no specific citing in your post of such materials, merely your opinion.

care to get some more?



Posted by: kustomizingkid

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...finition.shtml

Like I said there are a lot of people with a lot of different veiws of what a muscle car is. I'm sure I could come up with a scource saying that Mustangs and Camaro's are Muscle cars for every scource you have that says they are not.

I really think at this point we should agree to disagree, and then continue talking about Mark VIII's which are beautiful cars no matter what you want to call them.



Posted by: chriswells78

Wow, theres an accredited source. Anybody with access to the internet can start a forum. I own one myself.



Posted by: Frogman

Who cares whether the Mark VIII is a muscle car or not???

I think the kid said it best:

Quote:
Originally Posted by kustomizingkid View Post
I really think at this point we should agree to disagree, and then continue talking about Mark VIII's which are beautiful cars no matter what you want to call them.




Posted by: MarkVIII93

THROW SOME D's ON THAT!



Posted by: Dr. Paul

The rims are ugly.


The Mark VIII is a far cry from a muscle car.


Mustangs/Camaros are pony cars.


Paul.



Posted by: StincolnLincoln

those rims oops i meant WHEELS! lmao look damn good on your car. lowering it will set it off even more. i think it really shows the car off especially how the trim and grill accents it. good luck with it and take the rims .. damn there i go again i meant WHEELS!!!! of until the summer time rolls in...



Posted by: Irishpitbull

I think the rims look great on it!! Yea, it needs to be lowed just a little. I think the rims make it look like a whole new car!! Good Luck!



Posted by: LincolnMarkViii97

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iszi View Post
Meh... The rims *are* nice, but too much blingage for the Mark. Just my opinion.

Yea I agree



Posted by: Frogman

Quote:
Originally Posted by StincolnLincoln View Post
those rims oops i meant WHEELS! lmao look damn good on your car. lowering it will set it off even more. i think it really shows the car off especially how the trim and grill accents it. good luck with it and take the rims .. damn there i go again i meant WHEELS!!!! of until the summer time rolls in...
I chuckled.



Posted by: JC1994

Quote:
Originally Posted by MediumD View Post
Yes it does need lowering to even think about pulling those off.
hypocrite..... to each their own. that is what makes a car YOUR car.



Posted by: MediumD

That's true if the 4x4 look works for you, that's fine.





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