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Gen II Cobra R Hood get in here, if your serious.

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Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Just hung up with my Glass Guy and he said he would obviously need a hood to start from and we could make the Gen II Cobra R hood if there was enough interest.

Start-ups would be between $2500.00-$3000.00 and the hood itself will be no more then $649.00.

We would need a good startup group of people willing to pony up the money on 8 hoods and be willing to wait up to but no more then 60 days (provided there is no issues).

Chime in with SERIOUS inquries only and we will see.

Posted by: Dominus

Here's your first serious inquiry right here. You say when, and I'll lay out the money.

I've bitched enough times about MK8 aftermarket support. I'll do it.

Posted by: Nitrobasher

Heres your second, I know what ur thinkinng, (hes just a 17 year old kid)

well i am haha, but i WILL have the money for this hood and I will be willing to put it out!! lmk

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Remember you will be without the loot and and have to wait for the new Gen 2 Cowl Hood for up to 60 days. Just want that to be perfectly clear.

Posted by: m_maker

Any photoshop pictures of expected end result ?

Posted by: LSCGODDESS98

Any Pic Of What It Gonna Look Like???

Posted by: Frogman

I'd be in, but frankly, your track record for getting stuff done in a timely manner is not all that stellar. Cobrastar emblems anyone?

What do you mean, "you'll be without the hood"? Is this a complete fiberglass hood, or is it a hack fiberglass+OEM hood job?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Im sure it will end up like the CobraStars too, if it even gets started that is.

I meant you will not have the new hood and/or your money for the 60 days it will take to make the hood.

Ill have a photoshopped version up soon.

Posted by: Dern Humpus

As much as I like it, I cant afford to not have a hood.

Posted by: poniesviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dern Humpus

As much as I like it, I cant afford to not have a hood.

He doesn't use your hood.. It's a new hood..

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

I should have made this more clear. You will NOT have the new hood and or your money until the 60 day time frame to produce it occurs.

Posted by: Nitrobasher

so when are you taking payments?!

Posted by: Red Ryder

I'd be interested. Just waiting to see a photochop.......

Posted by: Dominus

I understand perfectly, but I think it is totally worth it.

Posted by: JoeyGood

Geno you're such a tease

you know i've been waiting for this post since i joined LVC

I'm in

Posted by: Stack

I would have to see the pic but I Am serious and I don't even have a car LOL!!!

Posted by: JoeyGood

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stack

I would have to see the pic but I Am serious and I don't even have a car LOL!!!

I don't need a pic cuz if Geno is headding up this project you know it will done with class to make you GEN II look hot!

All his stuff looks cool

Posted by: Dern Humpus

Wheres the pic of that black gen1 with the smoothly stepped hood?

Posted by: Scorpio1118_2000

That sounds good to me, I will have to work overtime to get the money. I have been waiting for something different. But if this is all there is then I dont have much choice. That is less money then it would take to make my own hood.

Posted by: Stack

Wow... I don't care if God himself is making the hood... You should always want to see what its going to look like!

I know Geno does great work, but he is also an EXCELLENT business man and knows that people (the majority) aren't going to buy on blind faith! LOL!

Posted by: tda13

I am interested, but I do need to see a pic. Sorry... my taste may not be the same as everyone else.

Posted by: 95sc

Here are couple pictures of my cobra r hood on my bird.I know it isn't on the mark VIII but there is my brothers mark VIII next to it so it should give some of you guys some ideas how it's gonna look on the Mark VIII.

Posted by: JoeyGood

Your bird looks great with that hood lets hope we can get the ball rolling on this project real soon. I'd love to put it on my mark

Posted by: Stack

BINGO... thats exactly how it needs to look...

Thanks!!!

BTW I have cash in hand to order when you get me a pic!

Posted by: JoeyGood

JUst thought i would bump this up just in case.

if we don't get the count we are looking for is there any way we can have it done?

I know I know Asking too much but hey you never know till you ask

Posted by: MKVIIRIP

haha that looks

in sexy but ya know i sure still am glad i have a 95. haha. but naw like whats this, how will i have a cobra R without a 351 or a 330? does anyone think i could fit a N/A 5.4 into my mark VIII? is it a challange?? how about a ATI procharger supercharged 5.4? hmm are we cookin with 1000 well handled hp here? hmm...im feeling it. what about yall.?

Posted by: Stack

Totally off topic guy...

Any updates?

Posted by: mosthated

This is my personal opinion, i've seen many many items talked about, and slightly produced, but nothing really in the making and clearly finished. I am all about being different with my lincoln and all about being the first one to do something or to maybe do it better or more worthwhile, who knows, i just like to be different. I commented about the rear spoiler and never got responces and other stuff, never got a private message about the idea or person in reference. If it is maybe someone footing the bill that you need, that shouldn't be so hard to accomplish. What you are trying to do is make 8 hoods and sell them for 3 grand or so, me personally, just like the guy above said about the track record, me personally, i rather not give someone 3 grand of my money to sit and see if its gonna happen. I"m sure this forum has a handful of really organized and really serious people, so why not approach them directly instead of posting a group message that from the previous postings seems to get no where. Just in my personal group of friends, we have 7 mark viiis. In this forum, i have no clue who to message or who to ask and get very broad inquiries on my post, yet no real user friendly interaction. I run multiple sites, internet security and what not and just my personal opinion, i'd work with the people who are really interested and see if you can get something going. Some people here have car clubs and sponsorships and everything that could take on the whole 8 hood project themselves if need be. What if someone wanted all 8 hoods exclusively, or 20 hoods exclusively, then you'd be the manurfacturer for this particular small setup, instead of waiting for 8 different individuals to musterd up the courage to give you 3 grand to see what happens. I'm interested in everything aftermarket, yet it never seems to get developed. Just send me a message when everything is ready or in development or add me to a list of friends or something, because the want for products is always here, guranteed.

Posted by: Stack

We need pics of a prototype but I soooo down its silly

Posted by: dnehthend

would this use the factory latch hardware or hood pins?

Posted by: 98LSC32V

I would be more interested in a gen 2 spoiler, Geno!

Posted by: cobramark

me too!! I'd be interested also.

Posted by: Stack

I Just Want Some News... Money In Hand!

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98LSC32V

I would be more interested in a gen 2 spoiler, Geno!

LOL thats fantasy land, a spoiler? Can't even get the hood done.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stack

I Just Want Some News... Money In Hand!

Same as before, we need 8 pre paid pre orders.

Posted by: Stack

So do we have any???

I need to call you sometime this week geno..

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

I think 3 people are serious.

Posted by: Stack

i should be able to call you today... we need to talk!

Vrooooom!

Is that three including me?

Cause yeah... I'm serious enough to even buy two if its the final one to get it done!

Posted by: Dominus

When and where. When and where. Who do I place my preorder with?

Posted by: dnehthend

I would really like to see semi-accurate photoshopped version first. How well will it line up with the grill?

Posted by: devilchild

Quote:

would this use the factory latch hardware or hood pins?

if its like my gen.1 it will use your stock latch and supports ( or whatever those things that hold up the hood are actually called )

Posted by: Stack

Yeah Geno... where's the photochop on this...

Ohh and I am still serious

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Just havent had time lately I am slammed!

Posted by: Stack

Sure ya are... and with what may I ask???

LOL! Just kidding

Oh and BTW...

<<< still serious

Posted by: Frogman

You better get on this Geno, otherwise I'll have the guy working on my hood make me a bunch of them and start selling them myself.

Actually, I'm kinda serious, even though I'm not crazy about getting into the Mark VIII car parts selling business.

Posted by: Stack

Ohhh ya hear that
BURN!!!

*poke poke* Geno!!!

Posted by: Tractionless

Im IN if you can assure it will use the stock latch and hinges etc. Not into putting hood pins on an Ivory car, not too sporty ya know!!

Posted by: JoeyGood

I'm still in

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Of course it will work just like stiock? The hood will be the EXACT same as the Gen 1 Cobra R , not too hard to think what it would look like. I do not even have time to finish my own website let alone PS a hood (that already exists) onto a Gen 2 Mark, sorry. We already have the hood plug we would just need to make it work on the Gen 2.

Posted by: Tractionless

Perfect, definitely in, don't care about the photoshop myself its pretty self explanatory. Collecting $$$'s yet?

Thanks

Posted by: Stack

Tick tock... LOL!

Posted by: Scorpio1118_2000

Is there a stock spoiler for the gen2 ?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

No.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

You better get on this Geno, otherwise I'll have the guy working on my hood make me a bunch of them and start selling them myself.

Actually, I'm kinda serious, even though I'm not crazy about getting into the Mark VIII car parts selling business.

Enjoy, you will just be sitting on a bunch of hoods that no one will buy.

Posted by: Frogman

And why is that, Geno?
Are your hoods made out of some uber cool Fiberglass or something?

Do you have exclusive rights to the Cobra R design?

Judging from your past projects timelines, I'm not holding my breath for a Gen II hood from LMS for quite some time.

You'd get a hell of a lot more response if you actually HAD the hood. Come on, you're looking at less than 4000 dollars to make a mold and the first hood.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

And why is that, Geno?
Are your hoods made out of some uber cool Fiberglass or something?

Do you have exclusive rights to the Cobra R design?

What are you talking about?
You can do whatever you want. It was pun because anytime something comes up that people SAY they want it never sells, like the current Gen 1 hood that we have had for sale for well over 3 years now and sold a grand total of 14.

Who ever mentioned design rights? Who ever said we use uber fiberglass?

It's just simple facts from the past experiences I have had with this market as whole including the CobraStar emblems that 15, 000 plus people begged for and to this day we still havent sold 200.

I am basically giving you a beware and save our loot or you will just be sitting on hoods, try it.

I would love to see you try it and see how many sell, I truly wish you well.

Real simple demographic. We have had the Gen 1 hood now for 3 years plus and have sold 11 total.

There are more Gen 1's produced then Gen 2's.

Less Gen 2's = less hoods.

Try it. PLEASE do it I would love to see this. Make them, sell them, won't affect me a bit you will just get a lesson leaerned that I have already learned the HARD way.

Posted by: Frogman

Once a mold is done, and a turnaround of less than 2 weeks after an order, I'd think people would buy them. I don't see how I could lose money, after all the initial cost of the mold and the first hood would have already been spent. I'm not investing into a mold to sell these damned things. It's something I'm investing for a hood for myself. As I've mentioned a few posts back, I don't want to get into the Mark VIII part business. I really don't feel like dealing with taxes on yet another business.

It would be one of those "You want a hood? Fine, this is the guy you have to call, and this is what it costs to make the hood. Send him the money to cover the hood, and have fun.

Posted by: Joeychgo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

And why is that, Geno?
Are your hoods made out of some uber cool Fiberglass or something?

Do you have exclusive rights to the Cobra R design?

Judging from your past projects timelines, I'm not holding my breath for a Gen II hood from LMS for quite some time.

You'd get a hell of a lot more response if you actually HAD the hood. Come on, you're looking at less than 4000 dollars to make a mold and the first hood.

Actually -- He's right. Ive seen it myself on several occasions. Everyone wants something ---- until it comes time to pay. Know how many t-shirts I have ??

I know you understand that the upfront cost is the big hurdle. $2-$4k upfront is alot to recoup when people dont buy. I looked into doing something like this myself and decided not to because of just that reason.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Exactly Joey, money up front , not out of pocket, sorry im not into having hard earned money just sit and rot.

They REALLY want a hood then it shouldn't be a problem to reach the goal needed to make the hood. We will see.

Posted by: 98LSC32V

I bought one of LMS's Cobra R hoods for my 95 LSC... it was excellent quality, fit perfect and used all the stock hood hardware.

Posted by: Tractionless

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tractionless

Perfect, definitely in, don't care about the photoshop myself its pretty self explanatory. Collecting $$$'s yet?

Thanks

Soo collecting any $$$ yet?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

What is the count so far?
Ill have everyone send in a Bank money order and when we reach the goal I will forward the money to my glass guy asap and we can get rolling.

We will need a Gen 2 hood to start from.
I have one from a wreck but it is pretty rough. Anyone near Warminster PA want to donate a hood for the cause?

Posted by: JoeyGood

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONEBADMK8

What is the count so far?
Ill have everyone send in a Bank money order and when we reach the goal I will forward the money to my glass guy asap and we can get rolling.

Just let me know when

Posted by: Scorpio1118_2000

Im still liking the supermark hood, too bad that project is not on the table.

Posted by: Stack

Get over it and support the cause!!!

Come on Geno!!!

Posted by: Tractionless

Again I am in!

Posted by: Jerrwayne

but I'm gona send ya the money so I have one of the hoods.I'm not even gona use it on the car I'v got.I don't think.? I'm even thinking of changing over to gen 1 cars.Oh well! What the heck.As soon as I get in from work then I'l get the bank check to you Geno.I can do that.One question though.Would you except a Western Union Money order? That's cheaper. ,Thanks,jerry

Posted by: Stack

Geno.... sounds like we are getting close... We need to see the final tally of how many payers we need...

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Yes I could, call me tomorrow.

Posted by: Nitrobasher

If we have enough people to send willing to make this thing happen, does that mean its coming into production, or will it just be this one time ?

Posted by: Stack

I am going to call you later this week...

Hopefully we will have a few things to talk about Geno

And Nitro, This will be just for this run to recover the cost of getting the mold made and all that... after this it shouldn't be a problem to runs of these hoods

Posted by: Tractionless

Are we supposed to be calling w/deposit $$$?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tractionless

Are we supposed to be calling w/deposit $$$?

Ill call my glass guy this week and see how he wants to do this.

Posted by: jbird97

any updates?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbird97

any updates?

Not until Monday June 2nd.

Posted by: 98lincmk7lsc

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONEBADMK8

Not until Monday June 2nd.

June 4th?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98lincmk7lsc

June 4th?

Yes sorry, it's been a rough week.

Posted by: JoeyGood

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONEBADMK8

Yes sorry, it's been a rough week.

No problem waited this long

Thought I would bump it up. Just in case we missed any stragglers

Posted by: JoeyGood

Hey Geno, Any updates yet?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Lets get an accurate total DEFINITE list together of people that have the CA$H right now and are willing to do this. Plus we will need a gen 2 hood to build from. Anyone have one they can give up near Hatboro PA?

Posted by: JoeyGood

I'm in so you can put me on that money list

Posted by: NateRW21

What ever happened with this?

Posted by: isaiah3g

yeah....im wondering the same. Even though im not too sure i want to get a cobra r hood for my car, i'd still like to see them on another mark. Who knows,i might get one if i like em

Posted by: punisher12b

They were never made far as i understand

Posted by: Cobramarkviii

Hey What is Goin on with the with Cobra hood for the Gen 2, how many people ended up on the list? Hopefully this Form will get rolling again and get some hoods goin I've been thinking about getting one for my mark..

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

I need the people who are serious and have cash and are willing to wait for the molds to get done then to wait for their hood this whole thing may take a few Months.

So chime in now, who is in?

Posted by: Kevin O'Connell

Gene, I'm serious and I'm in. I want to do a wing and a hood at the same time. So do me a price and I'll send you a deposit.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

No wing for the gen 2 except the Taurus wing.

Posted by: LuxurySportCoupe

I'd be willing to pre purchase one of these near the end of the month. TAx money FTW.

So count me in for the end of february, after that, who knows whats gonna happen.

I dont even own a gen 2...but i cant afford NOT to get one of these hoods, especially with a purchase of a 98 in the near future.

So pony up guys, who can come up with the money in a month or two and is dead serious? Time to put your money where your mouth is.

Geno, can we advertise this on any of the other lincoln forums?

Posted by: Goddard-MarkVIII

Is this still going on? And is that the same hood on the bird for the mark? To have it done I need to give you my hood and 650?

Posted by: Goddard-MarkVIII

stimulus check is coming whats up with the hoods?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Need a stock hood to build on in Warminster PA and people to pre pay. We need more people to pre pay.

Posted by: Goddard-MarkVIII

Any way to do it without my hood? How much then?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

We need a stock hood to mold from no matter what.

Posted by: Lux

How many orders do we need?

I could probably locate a hood, but i'm near atco raceway.

Posted by: Lux

do we have a photoshop of this hood or what it will look like on a gen 2, besides just using my imignation.

Posted by: lunchmeat

What ever happen to this??? We need a new hood!

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lux

do we have a photoshop of this hood or what it will look like on a gen 2, besides just using my imignation.

Its the same as out gen 1 hood. No difference.

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunchmeat

What ever happen to this??? We need a new hood!

Nothing happened, as usual. We need 8 pre paid pre orders.

Posted by: lunchmeat

Just woundering but why so much for a hood??? Is there no cheaper way of going about it?

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunchmeat

Just woundering but why so much for a hood??? Is there no cheaper way of going about it?

This has been covered so many times. SMALL RUN ITEMS COST MORE!! Period. I have to pay $3800.00 in mold and toolong costs, then the first runs, then HOPE to sell some to make a LITLLE teeny tiny rediculous profit. Example, Gen I hood took $5700.00 to launch with ALL costs involved including the forst 5 units about 8 years ago, as of today we have sold a grand total of 11 hoods, ELEVEN!!!! Its a joke.

Not even worth it to be totally honest and this is why I will not layout my hard earned cash to SIT on something that takes YEARS to see the pink on, been there done that too MANY times, sorry to come off like this but it is the harsh reality and truth of it all.

If it were a Mustang hood sure it would be $395.00 because I would sell them weekly or more. I sell 2 hoods a YEARRRRR if Im lucky.

Posted by: lunchmeat

I understand. Cant make any money cant pay bills. Its cool

Posted by: ONEBADMK8

Again I wasnt trying to be mean just totally truthful. I would love to have a Gen 2 hood available believe me.

Posted by: CobraStar_LS8

most people don't understand custom work is costly and the aftermarket is cheaper because the demands is already known to be high before it hits the market

Posted by: NateRW21

I couldn't find the approx price per hood... I haven't yet gotten my mark, but would seriously consider buying a hood first! (limited numbers, gotta get it when you can!). Just need a price.

Posted by: Staffamerica74

im just intrested in seeing how the cobra r hood lines up with that header panel/grille bump. If it looks good you can count me all in. Its just hard to imagine it

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