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My second gear sucks!!!

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Posted by: mark0101

Second gear is suppose to be the killer gear but mine just slows down form there
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rZRvjPsC7xo
my conti gets to 80 faster then my mark VIII but the mark gets faster to 60 MPH then the conti.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rgj2wLul-HQ

Posted by: 98LSC32V

When I watched the 1st video I didn't think it was too bad, probably just need gears but after watching the 2nd video your Mark VIII does seem to be slow from 60-80mph, slower than the Continental for sure. Have you taken the Mark to the track yet? Is that video after you got the chip or before?

Posted by: mark0101

after the chip and no I haven't taken it to the track yet but I will soon. I am pretty proud of the 0-60 and that was with bad tires so the launch sucked
BTW can you guys post your 0-60, 0-80 or 0-100 ................ I need to see other genII so I can compare
Thanks

Posted by: MediumD

Take it to the track or better yet get it on a dyno. See what it does with and without the chip. Just a shot in the dark but maybe your tune isn't properly disengaging the IMRCs.

Posted by: Sergmark

Sounds like it's loosing power before the shift or the trans is doing strange things.

Posted by: segxr7

That's not too bad, really, but it looks like the engine bogged a little in 2nd gear at just under 4500 rpm.

When was the last time you did a tuneup?

Sergmark, the Gen 2's cut power to the engine during shifts to make them smoother and more Lincolny. That's probably what you're seeing.

Posted by: 98LSC32V

Well all Mark VIII's retard timing between shifts however a good tune on a chip should have removed that!

Posted by: Sergmark

Ok ...But I can hear it.... Smooth shifts o.k maybe I can buy that but his conti is not doing it ?

Posted by: 98LSC32V

Well he probably doesn't have the timing retard removed then...

Posted by: mark0101

Alright so I guess I have to remove this timing retard thing. I have kept my Mark Pretty much tuned up, I think all I have to do is changed the plugs.
"it looks like the engine bogged a little in 2nd gear at just under 4500 rpm."
I have other videos too and it always seem to stop at under 4500 RPM. I posted this up before too and they said that it was normal.
Thanks guys

Posted by: segxr7

BTW, mark0101, does your car shift at 7000 rpm in Drive as well? I have an LMS chip which is supposed to raise the rev limiter, but it still shifts at 6000 RPM on the dot. I haven't tried manually shifting, since from what I understand, the pre-97 trannies don't handle that too well.

Posted by: vr4

my stock 95 shifts at an indicated 6500 on the 1-2 and the 2-3 both before and after the jmod.

Posted by: 98LSC32V

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Originally Posted by vr4

my stock 95 shifts at an indicated 6500 on the 1-2 and the 2-3 both before and after the jmod.

Your car has a chip then, look for it underneath the dash. Stock always shifts at 5800-6000rpm.

Posted by: mark0101

Quote:

Originally Posted by segxr7

BTW, mark0101, does your car shift at 7000 rpm in Drive as well? I have an LMS chip which is supposed to raise the rev limiter, but it still shifts at 6000 RPM on the dot. I haven't tried manually shifting, since from what I understand, the pre-97 trannies don't handle that too well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqIkYIyiqa4
If you are talking about this Video, I manually shifted it on 7,000 RPM but in drive, It shifts at 6,100-6,200 RPM.

Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

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Originally Posted by 98LSC32V

Your car has a chip then, look for it underneath the dash. Stock always shifts at 5800-6000rpm.

No chip in mine and it doesn't shift till 6200-6300. Also kicks down to 1st from 40 which most say it won't. 41 no, 40 everytime.

Posted by: MediumD

Well consider yourself lucky then, I can not get a downshift if I'm doing 37 or more.

Posted by: mark0101

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

No chip in mine and it doesn't shift till 6200-6300. Also kicks down to 1st from 40 which most say it won't. 41 no, 40 everytime.

Yep, i can do that too with or without a SCT

Posted by: vr4

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98LSC32V

Your car has a chip then, look for it underneath the dash. Stock always shifts at 5800-6000rpm.

no chip. unless the 78 year old (when purchased) original owner put 1 in.

ive pulled the ecu and theres nothing special on it.

also....mine will not kick down at anything above 37. was a chase car in an srt4 race from a 40 roll. man they left me hard cause i was stuck in 2nd.

Posted by: poniesviii

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Originally Posted by 98LSC32V

Your car has a chip then, look for it underneath the dash. Stock always shifts at 5800-6000rpm.

That's not very true. My stock tune '96 shifts at about 6,300 floored and it shifts fine every day of the week.