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how will a Mark stack up to the E350?

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Posted by: mark0101

So what you think? All I know is that the mercedes E350 does 6.5 0-60 MPH but can't find its quarter mile. Does anyone know what they will do? I will be getting a Chip soon (LMS chip), so that should give me a chance to keep upi with it off the line.

Posted by: 98LSC32V

Those cars are really fast, they have very aggressive tranny gearing (7 speed auto!) and they will do the 1/4 mile in the low 14's. I think your best shot is from a 35mph roll...

Posted by: gangstaMK8

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Originally Posted by 98LSC32V

Those cars are really fast, they have very aggressive tranny gearing (7 speed auto!) and they will do the 1/4 mile in the low 14's. I think your best shot is from a 35mph roll...

nowadays low 14's in the 1/4 mile isnt that fast. I do agree with the 35 mph roll though.

Posted by: MarkVIII93

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Originally Posted by gangstaMK8

nowadays low 14's in the 1/4 mile isnt that fast. I do agree with the 35 mph roll though.

It doesnt matter what day it is. Low 14's are fast.

Posted by: mark0101

C class has the same engine as the E350 and it does the 1/4 mile in 14.0 @ 99 mph. Since E350 is 200-300 pounds more then the C, I would expect it to do it in 14.3 - 14.6 @ 96-98 MPH (correct me if I am wrong)
Man V6 are fast now a days. most of the V6 selling now do 0-60 in 6-7 second range, even the new MKZ does it in 6.2 seconds.

Posted by: vr4

i saw E350 and was thinking a damn cargo van.

Posted by: HyeLifeLS

I don't know about the E350 but, I drove a an 06 E500 a while ago and that thing was fast, not as fast as the 550i Bimmer though.

Posted by: Moes8

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Originally Posted by vr4

i saw E350 and was thinking a damn cargo van.

LOL

me too,
i was like wtf at first

Posted by: segxr7

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Originally Posted by mark0101

Man V6 are fast now a days. most of the V6 selling now do 0-60 in 6-7 second range, even the new MKZ does it in 6.2 seconds.

Cars have gotten really impressive over the past few years. The Taurus SHO was considered a 4-door hotrod in its day, now it's underpowered compared to most V6 family sedans. Hell, the turbo Subaru Forester does 0-60 in 5.3 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 13.8! That's good enough to edge out most Corvettes if you catch the driver off guard, which in that car you probably would.

I'm just happy that the Mark can more or less keep up nowadays!

Posted by: MediumD

The E350 will edge out a stock mark

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Originally Posted by segxr7

Cars have gotten really impressive over the past few years. The Taurus SHO was considered a 4-door hotrod in its day, now it's underpowered compared to most V6 family sedans.

Which V6 family sedans are you talking about? Accord V6, Camry V6, CTS V6, Chrysler LH (300/charger) V6, Five Hundred, Fusion? An SHO would still burn any one of those today (well a CTS 3.6 would be good competition.) I think you're exagerating just a little bit.

(...says the former SHO driver.)

Posted by: 4.6powa

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Originally Posted by vr4

i saw E350 and was thinking a damn cargo van.

hahaha. same here. im around fords too much i think.lol

Posted by: vr4

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Originally Posted by MediumD

The E350 will edge out a stock mark

Which V6 family sedans are you talking about? Accord V6, Camry V6, CTS V6, Chrysler LH (300/charger) V6, Five Hundred, Fusion? An SHO would still burn any one of those today (well a CTS 3.6 would be good competition.) I think you're exagerating just a little bit.

(...says the former SHO driver.)

both the accord and maxima 6 speeds are very low 14 second cars. the SHO is a high 14 second car on a good day. its competition for my 00 5 speed maxima.

Posted by: 67Continental

guys - the new toyota rav 4 has an optional 280 hp six.....wtf for?

Posted by: 04SSHD

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Originally Posted by vr4

i saw E350 and was thinking a damn cargo van.

haha, me too

Posted by: segxr7

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Originally Posted by vr4

both the accord and maxima 6 speeds are very low 14 second cars. the SHO is a high 14 second car on a good day. its competition for my 00 5 speed maxima.

Plus the new Camry has a 268hp V6. I haven't seen any figures published yet, but I think it's safe to assume it'll be in line with the Accord and Maxima.

And the Fords & V6 Chryslers are 10+ years behind everyone else in terms of power, so they're not even worth mentioning.

Posted by: gangstaMK8

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Originally Posted by MarkVIII93

It doesnt matter what day it is. Low 14's are fast.

imo low 14's is not that fast. As far as im concerned ur still at first base running 14's. Dont get me wrong it is alright for the markvlll to do that but there are many cars out there that in stock form are running those numbers and they are only little imports. Fast to me is 11 - 12 second 1/4 mile times for a street car.

Posted by: vr4

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Originally Posted by segxr7

ford is finally coming out with a 3.5 duratec V6. i think its rated around 265hp.

as usual with fords it will only have a slushbox behind it.

Posted by: mark0101

ok guys why are the new V8s even slower then the V6 right now?
The 2005 Cadillac STS runs 14.69 @ 97.70 and its 0-60 is 6.21(from MSN)
The E350 weights 3800 pounds and the Caddy weights 4000 pounds. Why do we even have V8s if they don't make any difference?

Posted by: MediumD

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Originally Posted by vr4

both the accord and maxima 6 speeds are very low 14 second cars. the SHO is a high 14 second car on a good day. its competition for my 00 5 speed maxima.

You're right the Maxima is pretty quick, I'd forgotten about Nissan. The SE-R & Spec V are about in SHO territory.

What Accord sedan is running low 14s stock now? The V6 with an electric motor attached only manages low 15s. The coupes are a bit quicker.

The Camry finally gets some balls for 07.

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Originally Posted by mark0101

ok guys why are the new V8s even slower then the V6 right now?
The 2005 Cadillac STS runs 14.69 @ 97.70 and its 0-60 is 6.21(from MSN)
The E350 weights 3800 pounds and the Caddy weights 4000 pounds. Why do we even have V8s if they don't make any difference?

The E350 must make really really good use of it's 268hp/258ft.lbs. through it's 7spd. FWIW I haven't found any published 1/4 mile times for either, the E350 should do 0-60 in I've seen 6.5-6.9 seconds, the STS V6 is listed as "under 7" while the N* V8 is listed as "under 6."

Posted by: segxr7

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Originally Posted by MediumD

What Accord sedan is running low 14s stock now? The V6 with an electric motor attached only manages low 15s. The coupes are a bit quicker.

The 6-speed manual V6 model that's not loaded down with the batteries, motor, etc.

Posted by: mark0101

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Originally Posted by MediumD

I haven't seen the 1/4 mile of the E350 too but from what I was guessing, I thought it would be like the acura TLs(14.6-14.8s)
Those times are for a V8 STS.

Posted by: MediumD

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Originally Posted by mark0101

I haven't seen the 1/4 mile of the E350 too but from what I was guessing, I thought it would be like the acura TLs(14.6-14.8s)
Those times are for a V8 STS.

Did a bit more searching, MT got an 05 n/a Northstar STS to 14.2 @ 97.5 with a 6.0s 0-60.

Posted by: mark0101

well I just saw a E350 on the road today and all I can say is, its size is like a toyota corrola. Its heavy for its size too(3800). the features of the car are good like self leveling lights, rain sensing, and healamp washer but the looks of the car are not like a 50K car.
If anyone finds the 1/4 mile of this car, please let me know

Posted by: ALBUNDY

Well I also thought why the f_ck would he want to race a cargo van.

Posted by: mark0101

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Originally Posted by ALBUNDY

Well I also thought why the f_ck would he want to race a cargo van.

well one of my family member just bought the car, and their son(my age) talks crap about american cars. They own all import cars like toyota sequoia, corrola and now this benz. Its not like we were really going to race but just wanted to know. I guess I need a chip and an exhaust.

Posted by: MediumD

Just stick a 150 shot on it, race him, and say "oh gee I thought your brand new Benz would be able to keep up with my 9 year old Lincoln..."

Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Looks like 6.3 and 14.7. You should hang OK, from a roll even better.

http://www.ssmoparmuscle.com/speedcomp.htm

Posted by: mark0101

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Originally Posted by 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Looks like 6.3 and 14.7. You should hang OK, from a roll even better.

http://www.ssmoparmuscle.com/speedcomp.htm

thank you.

Posted by: MediumD

Then again I think we might be putting too much emphases on magazine times, which aren't always accurate or comparable between one another. As an example:

2005 Cadillac CTS-V 4.8 13.20
2004 Cadillac CTS-V (6-Speed Man.) 5.2 13.70

There were no changes in the drivetrain between 04 and 05 CTS-Vs, yet half a second difference between these mag times.

Posted by: mark0101

yea but atleast it gives me what his car runs about.

Posted by: MarkOfDeath

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Originally Posted by MediumD

Are you sure buddy, Im not saying SHO are slow but by no means is 15.6s fast, The new Camarys run 14.4 stock in the 1/4 and they are really fun to drive, the New accords are just as fast too, not even a lincoln could touch them