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Originally Posted by barry2952
Those are pretty much the sentiments that I have voiced in opposition to BuSh.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Hardly. You'll be eating crow again soon enough.
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
What kind of man is Bush?
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/co...wb/wb/xp-46210 Al-Qaida, we are told, wants to destroy us. Perhaps that is true, though it is hard to see how it is capable of such a feat. |
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
President Bush has called al-Qaida and Islamic fundamentalists "Islamo-fascists."
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Bush talks a lot about freedom, courage, transparent government and the rule of law. He talks...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
His speeches are carefully choreographed before audiences of his faithful -- ..
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
often Christian fundamentalists or, to paraphrase Bush, Christian-fascists -- and they must sign loyalty oaths to Bush.
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
He speaks before audience after audience of soldiers and sailors who cannot speak except as directed by the White House..
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Others before whom he speaks may ask no questions. He runs from journalists, as we have seen in China, even on those rare occasions that he speaks before them..
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Even worse, he has paid journalists to say good things about him and his policies. He also produces propaganda from government offices that he offers as news reports. And any protests against his policies are diverted well away from his sight and hearing..
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
In his Mission Accomplished foray, he wore a military uniform, something no president has done since Washington, and Washington only wore the uniform to quell a rebellion...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Around the world he has replaced the Soviet Gulag with the Bush Gulag, where men may be tortured...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
He refuses to divulge the energy industries' influence upon his policies and the records of his Supreme Court nominees...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
He refuses the United Nations access to question prisoners at Guantanamo Bay ..
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
and refuses the Red Cross access to prisoners at CIA black sites...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Furthermore, he threatened to veto legislation against the torture of prisoners even as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice conveyed a "don't ask, don't tell" torture policy to the world...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
In Iraq, he took us into an unnecessary war...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
He uses fear, intimidation, distortion and lies. I cannot tell whether the man cannot tell the truth or he doesn't know the truth...
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
From these few examples of many, what kind of man is Bush? Is he like Washington or Lincoln? Or is he a man of another kind? Not a Cincinnatus, but a Tarquin.
When I think of Bush, I do not think of liberty and courage, compassion and justice. No, I think of arrogance, greed and lies. He is a thug, a buffoon and a coward. Not only is he incompetent, he is corrupt... |
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
He is of a kind with the dictators; a strutting, sanctimonious buffoon who talks democracy but acts like Saddam Hussein. Bush might differ in degree from Hussein, not having been in power as long, but in behavior, with torture and the corruption of government, they are of a kind.
While al-Qaida is an enemy of the values and principles of the United States and Western civilization and must be confronted, it can do no more than kill people and destroy property. Bush can subvert our principles and institutions. He is the greater enemy... |
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
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Originally Posted by RB3
Al-Qaida (sic) wants to destroy us? PERHAPS this is true? PERHAPS you forgot September 11. Or the countless terror attacks on Americans during the Clinton years. PERHAPS you forgot the messages we've received saying they want to destroy us, coming from bin Laden and other terrorist leaders. As for how they'll accomplish it, it can be accomplished if enough idiot dupes like this author and those who agree with him prevail.
That would be because they are Islamic, and fascist. In addition to talking, we haven't been attacked on these shores again. His speeches are carefully choreographed...this is the left's favorite ploy to make absolutely nothing sound sinister. In other words, his speeches are written by speechwriters, and rehearsed. Know a President whose weren't? It wouldn't be a left-wing hate piece without a gratutious attack on Christians. As far as loyalty oaths to hear Bush speak...pure fantasy. Among the people I know who have heard Bush speak in person, none have signed a loyalty oath. And that list includes my mother and my son. Yes, the Commander in Chief does indeed address the troops. And no, they don't hold up protest signs. Ever hear of military discipline? Except, of course, when he is conducting one of his many press conferences. In China, he attempted to leave the room when a door was locked. It was a humorous moment. Only the crazed Left could see something sinister in it. No, the Pentagon paid Iraqi newspapers to print positive news about the reconstruction there. It would be nice if we could get a few positive stories in this country as well. The journalists shouldn't have to be paid to present a balanced view, something we aren't getting in this country at all from the mainstream press. No, he wore a flight suit. Perhaps you are unaware that he is a trained pilot. Pure fantasy. And we are told we must believe that people, who cannot find a difference between Stalinist Russia and the USA, are patriots? I'm sure they were all picked by Halliburton. (sarcasm) This article continues to deterioriate further into paranoid left-wing conspiracy theories. To do what? Smuggle out attack plans? What possible business does a useless organization like the UN have at Guantanamo? Of course, no one has yet proven the existence of these sites. And many of us feel he should have vetoed the Al-Qaeda bill of rights. If we define defending the United States as unnecessary. Last I checked that was the President's job. I think the author is describing himself here. The insane frequently project their characteristics onto others. But he's a better man than you are. As Calabrio pointed out, this is why the Left is truly dangerous. This paragraph truly says it all. The Left are unable to see the difference between a murderous tyrant and the leader of the free world. They cannot discern differences between the greatest democracy in the history of the world and third-world dictatorships. They are people who believe that the United States is always to blame , and is always wrong. Anyone who seriously believes that Bush, not bin Laden, is the real enemy, is either clinically insane or a traitor. Take your pick. I'm not surprised. |
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Originally Posted by fossten
That was some of the best dissecting I've seen since 10th Grade Biology.
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
AND totally meaningless!!!
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
You're right, I did lower my self, a little bit, to the level of Bryan and crew with that last post, I apologize.
I still agree with the sentiments expressed in the lead editorial of this post. |
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
You resort to name calling and belittling people, and when someone responds in kind you display righteous indignation. Get over yourself or move to DC and join the Shrub (lack of) brain trust.
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Originally Posted by 97silverlsc
That you haven't done it in this thread (yet) doesn't mean it hasn't happened elsewhere.
There are other threads where you have done just what I said. Stop playing the innocent schoolgirl routine and grow up. |
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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90
Its okay fossten,the best thing to do is ignore someone with such a lack of intelligence.Because the odds are your not going to get anywhere with such a person.He has been proven wrong and he knows it.The article which he blindly supports because he is extremly misinformed because he listens to the media so much has been broken down and chopped into peices and every aspect of the ignorant article has been proven wrong with facts.See fossten,the main difference between us and the lefties is that they make false,opinionated statements that mean nothing because they are unable to back anything up.Its hard to back opinion up when its wrong.We bring facts to table,and the can't say anything about our facts.So instead of admitting they're wrong they will resort insulting and belittling us because we are right and they are wrong.And when we defend ourselfs,they will start making accusations like lsc did by saying you were namecalling and and belittling.When you infact,did not.And he,infact,did.
P.S.-97silverlsc,don't respond by accusing me of calling you dumb or something.I have noticed in all your posts in the political forum that your throw down nothing but your own false opinion.This is a sign of a lack of intelligence because any real debater brings FACTS to the table,not the opinion,considering nobody cares what YOU(the debater in general) think.People are looking for facts.So lets end this thread by you admitting that the article is indeed pointless because it expresses some libbies opinion.And RB3 simply broke it down and proved the whole thing wrong with FACTS,not opinions. |
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Those are pretty much the sentiments that I have voiced in opposition to BuSh.
I reiterate, "Worst President Ever". |
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
Did we ever find the "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" in Iraq? Dabbing into Afghanistan was alot of help too.........WE really changed their lifestyle didn't we. I love the way we're cultivating "democracy" in Iraq, voting for a leader is really working and I believe that women can now actually argue with their husbands. You can say that I'm probably all up in Michael Moore's A$$crack, but hey............he speaks more truth than BUSH. Here's a "cut and paste" for ya....
read it... http://newamericancentury.org/Rebuil...asDefenses.pdf Great plan......very reminiscent to Hitler's Manifesto before carrying on with his Holocaust. Great stuff. |
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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90
Ok I see now,makes sense.Thanks for the heads up!
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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90
Its okay fossten,the best thing to do is ignore someone with such a lack of intelligence.Because the odds are your not going to get anywhere with such a person.He has been proven wrong and he knows it.The article which he blindly supports because he is extremly misinformed because he listens to the media so much has been broken down and chopped into peices and every aspect of the ignorant article has been proven wrong with facts.See fossten,the main difference between us and the lefties is that they make false,opinionated statements that mean nothing because they are unable to back anything up.Its hard to back opinion up when its wrong.We bring facts to table,and the can't say anything about our facts.So instead of admitting they're wrong they will resort insulting and belittling us because we are right and they are wrong.And when we defend ourselfs,they will start making accusations like lsc did by saying you were namecalling and and belittling.When you infact,did not.And he,infact,did.
P.S.-97silverlsc,don't respond by accusing me of calling you dumb or something.I have noticed in all your posts in the political forum that your throw down nothing but your own false opinion.This is a sign of a lack of intelligence because any real debater brings FACTS to the table,not the opinion,considering nobody cares what YOU(the debater in general) think.People are looking for facts.So lets end this thread by you admitting that the article is indeed pointless because it expresses some libbies opinion.And RB3 simply broke it down and proved the whole thing wrong with FACTS,not opinions. |
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Originally Posted by fossten
Your apology is insincere, sarcastic, vitriolic, and meaningless, containing nothing even resembling actual truth. Much like your articles and posts.
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Originally Posted by fossten
Typical flash and distract tactic, very amateurish.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
You are so full of
it isn't funny anymore.......If you don't think that (and what you've said above) isn't "belittling" and "insulting", you need to go back to school, son. Typical rePUG response, deny, deny, deny in the face of truth. You do a good job of following the traits of your worthless leader. |
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Originally Posted by Eleanor
Like I said..............
Its hard to find men nowadays that will stand up for anything. Most are hiding in their corners playing the ostrig syndrome. I hope you like your safe little corner. |
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Originally Posted by Eleanor
Like I said..............
Its hard to find men nowadays that will stand up for anything. Most are hiding in their corners playing the ostrig syndrome. I hope you like your safe little corner. |
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
I love my safe little corner. This corner is starting to really get crowded though, too many people with the same opinions. Let me guess, you're probably one of the few GREAT AMERICANS left in the middle of the ring, right? Ready to fight, right? Well who the heck are you fighting anyway? You've already worked up a sweat when you haven't even been scheduled to fight yet.......ahhhh, just like Bush's pre-emptive strike on the Middle East. He never did have an exit strategy you know...........probably why he's having a hard time ending the war. What a bunch of crock....I still don't see any progress there. Can some of you guys please reply back with all the positive changes that WE'VE made in the Middle East?? And yes, I do stand up for something......I stand against bush. I've been to both peace rallies in San Jose and San Francisco. I think that's SOMEWHAT type of proof that I stand for something.....but then again, that's just my opinion.
I like your name by the way....Eleanor.....fits your personality perfectly. |
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
What a bunch of crock....I still don't see any progress there. Can some of you guys please reply back with all the positive changes that WE'VE made in the Middle East?? ...
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
I like your name by the way....Eleanor.....fits your personality perfectly.
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
Did we ever find the "Weapons of Mass Destruction?"
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
1. Democratically elected government in Afghanistan
Why are American soldeirs still dieing and military operations going on if the Afghan government is up and running? If the government can't support itself, its not really an accomplishment. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
2. Democratically elected constitutional government underway in Iraq
Refer to my previous question when and if an Iraqi Democracy is up and can sustain itself independantly. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
[[i]3. Resumption of public education in Afghanistan[/I
Thats a good thing. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
[4. Restoration of infrastructure in both countries
Again, it's still a war zone, not sure how structually sound they are. Could be a deck of cards waiting to tumble. No? |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
[[i]5. Restoration of women's rights in both countries, including the right to work and the right to vote.[/I
Excellent thing, hope it last. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
[[i]6. The end of torture and killing by Hussein in Iraq[/I
Very good, unfortunately killing and torturing is still happening. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
7. The return of Libya to more responsible conduct due to fear of being dealt with as was Iraq
Libya was threatening us? |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
1. Democratically elected government in Afghanistan
Why are American soldeirs still dieing and military operations going on if the Afghan government is up and running? If the government can't support itself, its not really an accomplishment. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
2. Democratically elected constitutional government underway in Iraq
Refer to my previous question when and if an Iraqi Democracy is up and can sustain itself independantly. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
3. Resumption of public education in Afghanistan
Thats a good thing. 4. Restoration of infrastructure in both countries Again, it's still a war zone, not sure how structually sound they are. Could be a house of cards waiting to tumble. No? |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
5. Restoration of women's rights in both countries, including the right to work and the right to vote.
Excellent thing, hope it last. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
6. The end of torture and killing by Hussein in Iraq
Very good, unfortunately killing and torturing is still happening. |
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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS
7. The return of Libya to more responsible conduct due to fear of being dealt with as was Iraq
Libya was threatening us? |
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Originally Posted by fossten
I see. So in your America-hating world, we should just let Afghanistan be overrun by terrorists again, so they can give people like bin Laden asylum. Typical strategy, bashing our efforts to protect ourselves..
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Originally Posted by fossten
You didn't read the rest of the info, b/c if you did you'd know that Iraq is getting there. We never even had an exit strategy for WWII. We're STILL over there.
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Originally Posted by fossten
No, because we're not abandoning them until they're ready to defend themselves, despite your leaders' best efforts to undermine Iraq..
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Originally Posted by fossten
How very hopefully cynical of you...
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Originally Posted by fossten
"Yeah, and people and animals are still dying around the world." So what? Irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by fossten
"Uh - YEAH - they were building nukes until we went into Iraq, and then they announced they were backing down. .
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Originally Posted by fossten
"Geez, do you watch anything but CBS news? No wonder you don't know what's going well in the world.
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| Did we ever find the "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" in Iraq? Dabbing into Afghanistan was alot of help too.........WE really changed their lifestyle didn't we. I love the way we're cultivating "democracy" in Iraq, voting for a leader is really working and I believe that women can now actually argue with their husbands. You can say that I'm probably all up in Michael Moore's A$$crack, but hey............he speaks more truth than BUSH. Here's a "cut and paste" for ya.... |
| You are so full of it isn't funny anymore....... |
| Why are American soldeirs still dieing and military operations going on if the Afghan government is up and running? If the government can't support itself, its not really an accomplishment. |
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
You are so full of it isn't funny anymore.......
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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90
Another one.Tell me,please oh please,tell me why I am full of B.S. instead of just saying it.If you cannot then your post means nothing and was a worthless waste of space.
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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90
You want an accomplishment?How many times have we been attacked since we had a president with some sack.Bubba Clinton never responded to anything.He was more worried about when the next time Monica was going to satisfy him rather then running the country and keeping the people safe.Thats exactly why 9/11 happened.Because nothing was never done in defense during the Clinton years.Give an inch,take a mile.And thats exactly what Osama did.Want an accomplishment?Be happy your still alive.Immagine how many more times we would have been attacked if Bush sat on his ass like Bubba did.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Talk about talking out you ass. Show me where we've even been in Syria to find nerve gas. BuSh would be jumping up and down if that were true. What's your source, your dreams?
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Originally Posted by RB3
To answer your question.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Show me where we've even been in Syria to find nerve gas.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
"Did we ever find the "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" in Iraq?"
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Try R E A D I N G the question Bryan.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Talk about talking out you ass. Show me where we've even been in Syria to find nerve gas. BuSh would be jumping up and down if that were true. What's your source, your dreams?
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Originally Posted by RB3
To answer your question.
(Source is Jane's Defense Weekly) Syria's 'nerve gas' missiles |
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Try R E A D I N G the question Bryan.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
The question was about WMD that were Iraq's. Try and read a little closer. Comprehension seems to be a problem with the RW.
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Ty reading the question at the top of page 2 and subsequent answers. You guys like playing with each other, don't you?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
Typical flash & distract tactics from the RWWs..........
Barry asks: "Did we ever find the "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" in Iraq?" |
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
RWWs answer: "Actually we did find nerve gas in Syria. So we do have reason to believe that they may have been taken out of Iraq and there could be more to be found."
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
Barry asks another question: "Show me where we've even been in Syria to find nerve gas."
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
RWWs reply: "AT LEAST 100 Syrian long-range ballistic missiles, equipped with VX, the most lethal nerve gas, are aimed at central Israel," according to a senior Israeli defence source, who added that the Syrians have now achieved their aim of balancing Israel's nuclear advantage."
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
Pure speculation that the same nerve-gas missles reported by a senior Israeli defence source (not US), were secretly smuggled into Syria from Iraq.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
And you guys on the right wonder why you have no credibility.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS
Sorry Barry, but this deserves an
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Originally Posted by barry2952
Another lame response. And yes, I believe you are a RWW if you believe what you spew.
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| Ah, another one with a mental block on reading comprehension. Go back and re-read my post, it's all spelled out in black and white. |
| The fact of the matter is, it is only a matter of time before we get attacked again. Even the bi-partisan 9/11 comissioners agree that GW has done a VERY POOR job of increasing the ACTUAL (as opposed to VIRTUAL in your own minds) SECURITY of the US soil. The pathetic "patriot act" and "homeland security" has turned out to be a clawless tiger in the real defense of US soil and is nothing more than a political machine used to funnel tax dollars into the pockets of legislators and law enforcement officials instead of towards actual, REAL improvements in the security of our US soil. |
| fossten No, he's distracted with still trying to figure out why that Christian bear joke is funny. |
| RB3 has yet to be refuted on this board. He makes the best arguments and puts up the best defenses. Hardly what I or anyone could call 'spewing'. |
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Originally Posted by waltdeuce
Did we ever figure out what kind of man Bush is? Even a judge can't agree with this jack@$$.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2685935 I'm sorry, this newbie said too much again.....but 1 more stupid question before I go and hide in my little bubble, what do you guys think about the proposed military draft? I'm not trying to be rhetorical or sarcastic. I simply want to see other people's perspective on scenario. |
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Originally Posted by MonsterMark
AOL? Who the hell uses AOL anymore. LMAO. Hint... Tin foil hat parties...
Hello??? Time to join the digital revolution. And I'm willing to bet most are on dial-up. |
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Originally Posted by DLS8K
I would encourage you to find polls asking those identical questions (or as close to identical as possible) from a neutral website.
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Originally Posted by Vitas
Why?
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