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Bush was right AGAIN, fiberals!!!

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Posted by: fossten

Bush Was Right to Reject Kyoto 'Fiasco'
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/29/111406.shtml

George Bush suffered heavy international criticism for rejecting the Kyoto Protocol, but it now appears he was exactly right: The treaty is a "fiasco,” Forbes magazine declares.

The treaty was negotiated in 1997 as a way to slow global warming, and formally took effect in February, without U.S. participation.

The Clinton administration agreed to the protocol, but the Senate refused to ratify it, in part because developing countries that were major polluters and trade competitors, particularly China and India, refused to participate in the Kyoto accord.

So right now "Kyoto is essentially a western European proposition,” Forbes reports.

But "China and India together send more tons of carbon into the atmosphere than all of western Europe combined, and the U.S. accounts for more than China and India together.”
Therefore it has become "painfully obvious that the treaty was a fiasco,” Dan Seligman writes in Forbes.

Even Britain’s Tony Blair, a supporter of the protocol, seemed to admit defeat for the treaty when in a recent speech at the Clinton Global Initiative in New York, he conceded: "No country is going to cut growth” – which is the only known way to cut emissions, according to Forbes.

Ironically, even western Europe is not reducing emissions. According to the protocol, western European nations must reduce their emissions to levels 8 percent lower than those of 1990. But in the years since the treaty was negotiated, carbon dioxide levels increased by 7 percent in France, 11 percent in Italy and 29 percent in Spain. Overall, the increase for western Europe was 5.4 percent.

"After many years of European chatter about the monstrous evil perpetrated by George W. Bush in rejecting Kyoto,” Forbes concludes, "it is of possible interest that the increase in carbon emissions in the U.S. during those years was slightly lower (4.7 percent).”

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

what is a fiberal?

Posted by: Joeychgo

SO Bush was right because China and India wouldnt agree... ? What BS.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by Joeychgo

SO Bush was right because China and India wouldnt agree... ?

Exactly!!! Why put our Country in another position of economic disadvantage?

All the Fiberals would be screaming about the recession it owould create and another 8,000,000 plus manufacturing jobs lost.

Man, people on the LEFT always want to have it both ways. Don't you guys tired of winding up with nothing?

Posted by: Joeychgo

Why not pressure them to agree? Be a leader - Not a whiner.

Posted by: Calabrio

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Originally Posted by Joeychgo

Why not pressure them to agree? Be a leader - Not a whiner.

Pressure the Indians and Chinese to comply to the Kyoto Treaty? You don't think that was attempted? What leverage would you use to interest a developing economy, with populations in the billions, to sign onto a treaty that would torpedo their economy?

Perhaps we could have torpedoed our economy as a show of good faith?

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by Joeychgo

Why not pressure them to agree? Be a leader - Not a whiner.

I'm confused - WHO are you referring to as the whiner? My understanding is that Bush didn't believe in Kyoto, and rightly so, so he didn't attempt to persuade them to go along with the treaty. In fact, he showed leadership by NOT signing Kyoto, and India and China DID follow his lead.

Why would Bush pressure two countries to do what he doesn't believe in?

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by JoeyLincolnMK8

what is a fiberal?

A fiberal is a pejorative term used to describe a liberal in answer to the pejorative term "Repug" which is used on this forum by fiberals to describe Conservatives.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by JoeyLincolnMK8

what is a fiberal?

Fiberal...

Fib: To speak an untruth.

Liberal: excessively free or indecorous in behavior.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Fiberal...

Fib: To speak an untruth.

Liberal: excessively free or indecorous in behavior.

Posted by: barry2952

Ask Bryan to explain what a Repugnican is. How's that crow tasting Bryan?

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by barry2952

How's that crow tasting Bryan?

I basted it with lemon and pepper and cooked it in the oven at 275 for 1 hour and 45 minutes until crispy brown on the outside and tender and juicy on the inside. Yumm. Thanks for asking.