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why are gen 1 faster then gen 2?

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Posted by: mark0101

Well I know the intake is better and I think the gen 2 weight more but how much more? What else is different that makes the gen 1 mark faster then the gen 2.

Posted by: JC1994

the computers are programmed different.

Posted by: 98LSC32V

The Gen 2 engines (and 96) have the Beehive valve springs like the Cobra. Gen 2 has COP no plug wires. Gen 2 throttle body tube is a better design but the intake manifold is the biggest restriction and tuning. I think Gen 2's are slightly heavier as well.

Posted by: Moes8

along with the above mentioned reasons,i have heard the main reason is that the computer programming is less aggressive,i figure it has to do with the start of obd2 in 1996,i have read on one of the mod motor sites that the the single most agressive engine computer was code "DZA1"
obd 1

Posted by: mark0101

so I if had a chip, it would hang with a gen 1,right?

Posted by: 98LSC32V

If your engine is tuned up then yes, with a Chip you should be about the same speed as a well tuned stock gen 1.

Posted by: mark0101

Ok so if i race with a gen 1,about how many car lenghts would it have on me

Posted by: apbpetey

Not all gen2 are slower and not all gen1 are faster. It really would depend on the car and driver as to how much of a lead either would have. There are some stock gen2 marks around that run in the 14.9-14.8 range. On average though the 93 mark is considered the fastest stock mark. The programing wa set up more on the preformance side with them compared to other year marks.

Posted by: 95Marklll(Kingcobra)

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Originally Posted by apbpetey

Not all gen2 are slower and not all gen1 are faster. It really would depend on the car and driver as to how much of a lead either would have. There are some stock gen2 marks around that run in the 14.9-14.8 range. On average though the 93 mark is considered the fastest stock mark. The programing wa set up more on the preformance side with them compared to other year marks.

Thats what I hear too that the 93's were the fastest. This is all based on the computer set up for that yr, so If u up the chip, yr doesent matter. But the different things between gen 1 and 2 are the only things to put into consideration.

Posted by: buddylee

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Originally Posted by 95Marklll(Kingcobra)

My 93 is faster than my 94 and my 94 has true dules pipes and k&n fliter

Posted by: MrWilson

Cuz its the one i picked

Posted by: MarkVIII93

What is the average 1/4 mile time for each year?

Posted by: Bates93Mark8

My 93 is faster than my 94 and my 94 has true dules pipes and k&n fliter

My 93 has ture dual exahust from factory was that with all 93's I know there was no such thing as lsc then

Posted by: buddylee

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Originally Posted by Bates93Mark8

My 93 is faster than my 94 and my 94 has true dules pipes and k&n fliter

My 93 has ture dual exahust from factory was that with all 93's I know there was no such thing as lsc then

93's came with almost duals if your dosent the someone had it done

Posted by: MarkVIII93

If the exhaust looks stock, Im pretty sure a system from the 95-96 LSCs would bolt up.

Posted by: Markviiiedrea

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Originally Posted by buddylee

My 93 is faster than my 94 and my 94 has true dules pipes and k&n fliter

same