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Underage Drinking Questions

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Posted by: KD00LS

What's up everyone. I recently got an underage drinking charge in Pennsylvania and got my license suspended for 90 days. Does anyone know if it applies in NJ, since I'm a NJ citizen? I asked the judge, and to my suprise he didn't know. I might just drive anyway and if a problem arises blame it on the fact that I wasn't informed.

Posted by: HyeLifeLS

man, you better don't play with that sh*t. Most of those judges and the cops don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Posted by: 94m5

DON'T just drive and assume you'll get out of trouble if your caught. Go to your secretary of state (or who ever does your liscence records), and have them run your name.

Normal penalties around here for that type of crap is double what ever you had before PLUS some money out of pocket. I was caught driving on a suspended Dl, the day of prom IN my tux, and getting ready to walk into the building. I got the ticket, but paid the bond to stay out of jail.

Later that month the judje gave me supervision, but it still got sent to the SOS. I ended up with no drivers liscence for 2 years. Think about that for a little bit, and figure out if you want to make it worse for yourself.

Deal with it. You did the crime, pay the penalty and be done with it. I myself believe that the drinking age should be lowered, but untill that time, you have to deal with the laws that are in place.

Just my 2 Cents.

Mike

Also....In Illinois, anyone with a suspended DL is restricted from driving in any state. does'nt matter if it's alaska or hawaii.

Posted by: pepperman

well said Mike!!!!!

Posted by: KD00LS

Good point, the license is supposedly only suspended in PA. I don't know, I'll call tomorrow.

Posted by: erd517

Yes u dont wanna play with that they take that seriously i was a passenger in a drunk driving crash and i got

ed up inestins repaired...head trauma some bad

but all i can say the person who was driving is my friend and still is....but if ur license is suspended dosent that mean anywhere u go its still gonna be suspended just my thoughts id look into that more before u decide to drive

Posted by: aggiestckl

It does not apply in new jersey. I live in Doylestown PA and got the same charge twice acctually.. you just cant drive in PA. I know this for a fact... I asked the judge, who acctually looked it up.. It does not and i repeat does not carry over into NJ... they just hit you for 480 bucks.. and like 100 for a reinstatement of driving priviliges in pa

Posted by: mespock

Hey, Just be careful with the DL and the Law... What is only 90 day may become more expensive, longer, and in WI you could do time..

Posted by: MarkVlll Mike

I'm a PA resident.

Personally I would just keep driving, but only when I had to, and it would be the speed limit for a change. You gotta find out if offenses in PA transfer to NJ. Give your local court house a call, don't give them to many details.

Did you get a fine too? A few weeks ago one of my friends got arrested for public drunkness. They didn't suspend his license but he was fined $318.

Posted by: JC1994

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. try tellin' the judge you didn't know and he'll laugh at you. I also hope that you won't be drinking and driving anymore.
too many people have died because of drunk drivers.

Posted by: MarkVlll Mike

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC1994

I also hope that you won't be drinking and driving anymore.
too many people have died because of drunk drivers.

You've got it wrong.

The license suspention is PA's universal punishment for being caught with alcohol in your system anywhere. Usually it happens to kids around campus on a thursday, friday, or saturday night. I've almost been caught a couple times, at WCU.

If he had been DUI'ed he'd have a hell of a alot longer of a suspension.

Posted by: JC1994

I thought it was a DUI. My bad, sorry. how were you getting home that night?
designated driver?

Posted by: 94m5

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkVlll Mike

Yea, Unfortunatly the government is SLOWLY adding more and more reasons to take your Dl away from you, Minors have it the worst too. 2 moving Violations within a 24 month period in Illinois results in a 12 month suspension of driving "privlieges". This does'nt matter if you were speeding 2 MPH over the limit, or running 130 in a 55. Seat belts, obstruction of view, pretty much anything you can think of is a moving violation in this state. In addition to that a minors Dl can be suspended for simply being caught intoxicated. Does'nt matter if he had the keys to a car or not.

To top that off, it's only getting worse. (here anyway)

What the automotive community NEEDS to do, is start lobbying the senators and representatives in our government to start reversing some of the bull

that has been put in to law. There are things in there that are ENTIRELY un-fair and should'nt be.

Don't get me wrong, DUI and all other alcohol/substance related driving offenses should be more than doubled in my opinion, but taking a kids DL away for drinking some beer??????

C'mon guys.....

Mike

Posted by: mespock

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94m5

Don't get me wrong, DUI and all other alcohol/substance related driving offenses should be more than doubled in my opinion, but taking a kids DL away for drinking some beer??????

C'mon guys.....

Mike

I understand what they are trying to do. Law makers get his publicly by crying mother's who have lost their children to automotive accidents. These laws look good to the voting public.

I don't know if this is totally true yet or what but when I was in Germany in 1982 - yes I know Mike you weren't born yet!.. But what I was told by some German citizens was that it cost big dollars to get their driving privileges. To loose their license and then re-gain them would cost even more.

Drunk driving was something you didn't here of or at least I didn't while I was there.

They valued their license more, therefore took better care of keeping it. Now I'm not saying we need to copy this but, some of the dumb little laws might not even be thought of if our licenses held more value to us.

Posted by: pepperman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespock

Some people don't understand that driving is a privilage, not a right!!!

Posted by: MrWilson

well, as it stands, it is a right. If you turn 15,16,17,18 w/e it is, you get a license no questions asked (basicly) theres nothing you have to do to earn it. So in that sense it appears to most people IMHO to be a right.

Posted by: pepperman

I still see it as a privilage that has to be earned, by a written test and a driving test. Maybe some people see it as a right, IMHO it is a privilage!!!

Posted by: rmac694203

It is a privilage that many people out there shouldn't have.

Posted by: pepperman

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmac694203

It is a privilage that many people out there shouldn't have.

Posted by: JC1994

a right is something that can't be taken away. a privilage is something that can be taken away, so driving is a privilage. also it costs $1500.00 to get your license in germany.

Posted by: mholhut

Last time I looked at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... there was no mention of a right to a driver's license.

Regardless, you'll still have to take care where you choose to "exercise" driving on a suspended license. In MA, if your out-of-state license is suspended you will be arrested for operating without a license... not simply cited for operating after suspension. Then again, operate on a suspended license and get nailed in a traffic accident and you'd still be screwed. While you may be able to control your car, you can't control everyone else on the roads

PM me your DL# and I can check your status through the NJ DMV.

Posted by: KD00LS

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Originally Posted by aggiestckl

It does not apply in new jersey. I live in Doylestown PA and got the same charge twice acctually.. you just cant drive in PA. I know this for a fact... I asked the judge, who acctually looked it up.. It does not and i repeat does not carry over into NJ... they just hit you for 480 bucks.. and like 100 for a reinstatement of driving priviliges in pa

Thanks for the information. So far the judge in Shippensburg did not know, the judge in Medford NJ did not know, it's just ridiculous that nobody knew. Good that it doesn't affect NJ, I wanted to drive over Thanksgiving break. Thanks for all the help guys, this is a good discussion. And no I wasn't driving, never would.