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2007 Cadillac Escalade features more chrome and power

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Posted by: Joeychgo

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The all-new redesigned 2007 Escalade SUV sports a larger and more detailed version of Cadillac's signature grille and surrounds it with curvy body styling.

"Since its inception, the Escalade has been an icon," Cadillac general manager Jim Taylor said. "The '07 model raises the bar with exceptional exterior style, interior refinement, increased performance and enhanced ride and handling."

The all new 2007 Cadillac Escalade is expected to go on sale in early 2006.

The 400-horsepower Cadillac Escalade will be the most powerful Luxury SUV on the market, Cadillac says. However, between the six-speed automatic transmission and the 6.2-liter V8 engine with variable valve timing, the 2007 Cadillac Escalade should have better fuel economy than the current Escalade, which is rated at a lowly 17 m.p.g. on the highway.

The 2007 Cadillac Escalade borrows some of its styling cues -- including its dramatic V-shaped grille and vented front fenders -- from the Cadillac concept, the Cadillac Sixteen.

Optional chrome 22-inch wheels and LED taillights add to the stylistic 'Bling' that has become a near trademark of the Escalade.

Options will include a navigation system, heated steering wheel, DVD video, a rearview camera and a power tailgate.

General Motors will build the Escalade in Arlington, Texas.

Posted by: brentalan

Looks nice, I hope they sell for the sake of GM

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

still looks like a tahoe to me, with alil copying of the land rover sport's front quarter panel of that air vent thingy!

Posted by: FreeFaller

I like the updated interior. The exterior looks much better as well.

But I love that RR Sport....

Posted by: MAllen82

the inside is very classy, but for some reason, all the new suv's from gm (suburban, yukon, etc...) look cheesy. They almost look like toys to me, I can't wuite explain it. Chrysler is coming out with a new SUV called the Aspen, and they are actually going to build the Firepower starting next year I believe.

Posted by: Aviatorguy

The exterior looks good and the new design continues to give the Escalade a unique look. However I would have thought that Cadillac would have done a better job in the new interior. The new interior is not even close to how the Navigator's interior looks. The Navigators interior is a clean understated yet luxurious interior. Even after going three years on the market no domestic luxury SUV even comes close. I would have liked to have seen a center mounted shifter on the new Escalade to give it a more sporty appearance and separated more from the Tahoe. Lincoln was smart in doing that when they brought out the current Navigator and Expedition designs. I can not tell in the pictures by I hope that this time Cadillac did use "rea" wood throught the interior and not just on the door panels and steering wheel. I like the idea of the power lift gate and the addition of the 6 speed transmission

Posted by: HyeLifeLS

THe interior is really nice, but the exterior I like the old one better, this new one doesn't look that bold. But the RR is the bomb.

Posted by: LincMark_7&8

The interior looks like a car interior. It is diffrent to say the least. I wonder what Lincoln is going to do to up the ante on the motor and the stylin as far as the Range Rover goes another fine Ford product I must say.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

since ford is using BMW's X5 motor in the Range. i really do not know why they are not throwing in that block into the new avi or navi, it is beyond me!

Posted by: LincMark_7&8

What motor is that? Is it a supercharged motor?

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

Damn,thats a thing a bueaty.The exterior is amazing.I love the front end.It looks exotic in a way.The fender vents add a very nice touch.As far as the interior,GM,its about time!The interior is great.I will agree that the shifter should have been put on the floor.I do perfer this one over the Navigators interior.Im not a fan of the brushed aluminum and I don't think it belongs in a luxury SUV.Not to mention that it does remind you of a Mustangs interior.Lets not forget Navigator's biggest problem that lacks luxury:its incredibly cheep.The hard plastics and every moves around in its place,and fake wood.It ought to be better than that for a 50K truck. I like the wood grain everywhere.Which is what the last Escalade lacked.This is nice though.Its also not outgoing and not way-too-much,if you know what I mean.Such as interiors like the Navigator and the new B9 Tribeca.I think they could have thown some dual or maybe quad chrome pipes on the back and they could have inproved on the tail lights.They look a lot like the first gen. Escalade.But looks good nontheless.And the engine.400 horse!With a 6 speed I can't wait to see the numbers it puts up for an SUV.Good job GM.Keep it up.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by LincMark_7&amp

What motor is that? Is it a supercharged motor?

4.4l V8 300 HP! but the Range does have a supercharged option, i think it is the same motor that is in the SC'ed jags 4.2l V8 390HP. which is not the same motor!

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

First off the Navigator has REAL wood. I own one. The Escalade has tha wood grain plastic. That is a fact-not an opinion. Don't get me started on the fact that they added the chrome stripe down the side under the window just like Lincoln has been doing since 1998, copied a power tailgate, copied air vents from the RR and new Sport Trac Adrenalin from 2004, and in 2005 the platinum copied with A/C seats. Navigators have had them since late 1999. I would like to see GM use their design team just once without basing everything off of other companies ideas. It takes more than dumping tons of HP in a vehicle as a selling point for some of us. Especially with gas the way it is! Do you really think a 400 HP 6.2 V8 is going to be good on gas?! I wouldn't be surprised to see power running boards on the next Caddy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater I just wish GM would come up with their own ideas. Let's not forget that the only reason an Escalade exists is Cadillac needed something to compete with the Navigator. Navi came out in late 1997, Caddy came out in mid-1998.

Posted by: captainalias

interior looks too much like the Tahoe. (just like the DHS and Lucerne interiors look like copies of each other) For a car of this price, it needs its own interior, like the Navigator has its own.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

Haha.Okay,I stand corrected.The Navigators do have real wood.I assumed it was plastic when I was checking out interior qualities on the rental Navi on my way to Virginia.Which by the way,I was not impressed with the Navi's piss poor performance to say the least on my way down.Most new Kia's don't have the squeeks and rattles this 2005 Navi did(with only 5K miles on it when i had it).But back to my assumption.I just figured it was plastic from when I tapped on on it and saw it was loose in its place.As were many other controls and buttons in this truck.The window had a certain annoying grinding screech everytime I rolled in down too.Just the cheepness and lack of quality that went into this automobile made me very unsatisfied.

You really had me laughing on the "copied" statements.Cadillac copied the chrome strip?Come on bud,Cadillacs been putting chrome everywhere since 1902.Im pretty sure that Lexus had the power tailgate before Lincoln.And GM vans were using the power side doors before Ford.How many vehicles have had airvents?Just the RR?Not true.Its a common sporty touch thats been on vehicles since Harley Earl was in diapers..I give you the Buicks of the 50's and 60's that carried this. Come on,you can do better than that.Mercedes had cooled seats LONG before Lincoln.And retractable runningboards aren't necessary condidering they look better out.And do you really need runningboards for a truck that sits not even a foot of the ground?Got anything else Cadillac has taken from Lincoln?I don't think so.Not that they had any to begin with.

Now,how about a little history in Cadillac.In 1904 Cadillac becomes the first automotive manufacturer to win the Dewar Trophy.This trophy was awarded annually to the company making the most important advancement in the automotive field beginning in 1904.As I stated,Cadillac was the first to win in,and the ONLY manufacturer to win it twice.By the way,Lincoln has never held this trophy.
Cadillac also introduced the concept of interchangeable parts.
Cadillac introduced electric starting, lighting, and ignition.
Cadillac comes out with rack and pinion steering and the first variable valve timed engine-1903.
Cadillac had the first fully enclosed body-1905.
1909 Cadillac offers the worlds first limousine.
1915,Cadillac produced the first full-armored car; created the first mass-produced V8 engine - it was also the first engine to use thermostatically controlled water-cooling technology.
1922,Cadillac makes the first automatic windshield wiper.
1930, Cadillac produces the world's first V-type 16-cylinder engine for passenger cars. It was smooth, quiet and powerful with 160 horsepower from 452 cubic inches.
1934, Cadillac introduces the world's first independent front suspension.
1938, Cadillac introduces the first sunroofs.
1940, Cadillac introduces the first fully automatic transmission: The Hydra-Matic transmission.
1953,Cadillac makes the first signal-seeking automotive radio, and the Autronic Eye - the first automatic headlight dimmer.
1957,Cadillac comes out with quad headlamps, six-way power seats with memory, automatic door locks, forged aluminum wheels and an air suspension.
1964, Cadillac debuted with the industry's first automatic climate control system: Comfort Control; Cadillac debuted an industry-first "Twilight Sentinel" system.
1965, Cadillac introduces automatic load leveling and tilt/telescopic steering wheels.
1969, Cadillac introduces the industry's first closed cooling system, making overheated engines a thing of the past.
1975, Cadillac becomes the first U.S. auto manufacturer to install electronic fuel injection and introduces the catalytic converter.
Cadillac came out with DOD,or Diplacement On Demand technology.Also known as the 8-6-4 engine that would shut down cylinders for better fuel economy.
1990,Cadillac introduces Electronic Traction Control.
1992,Cadillac introduces the worlds first 32 valve V8 engine,the amazing Northstar.
1999, Cadillac offers the first automotive application of thermal-imaging technology: Night Vision.
Cadillac was also the first to have heated and cooled cup holders and steering wheels.

Now thats all for todays Cadillac lesson.My appologies in advance,for Im sure I left some out.How many of those do you think Lincoln copied?Let here Lincoln's list of firsts.Wait,do they have any?Oh and don't say chrome under the windows either.And make sure you read that carefully before posting another unintelligent post.

And one more thing about the 6.2l.This engine is going to be more fuel efficient thanks to Displacement on Demand.The Navi still had worst fuel economy than the previous Escalade even with the Navi's smaller engine.And if you havent noticed,Cadillacs joined the SUV horsepower war.Maybe Lincoln should.No matter what you say about the Escalade,it still blows the Navi out of the sea in yearly sales.Why can't Lincoln make anything to compete with the Cadillac V-Series?Or the BMW M-Series?Or Mercedes Benz AMG?Lincoln has nothing going for them.There a sinking ship.Even Vice President of Ford,Steven Hamp said that Lincoln is done chasing Cadillac.He stated that Linoln is going to be Ford's near luxury car division,competing with the likes of Buick and Chrysler.Cadillac is so far ahead of them right now and have always been.

Posted by: captainalias

The navi/Aviator have had very unique interior designs, that are unlike any other Ford vehicle.

The Escalade, before and after this renovation, continues to look like an upscale Tahoe. At this price range, shouldn't it get its own treatment?

Posted by: TownCar97

from the front door back the new escalade looks like a navigator, I cannot believe that the shifter is still on the steering column.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

Just because the Navi's interior is distinct from the Expedition's,does not make it nice.Or anything near quality for that matter.Not to mention thats one Lincoln.Mark LT's interior is exactly like the F-150.And Town Cars interior is exactly like the Vic's...to list a couple.Its worst having more cars with similar interiors.

TownCar97...your not serious are you?They look nothing alike.The Escalade's mirror are rounded out opposed to the blocks on the Navi.The body lines are nothing similar.The Navi has bigger wheel flares and the wells are rounded out where as Escalade's are more squared.So if you are trying to imply that the Escalade took styling cues from the Navi,your crazy.

And apparently a lot of people aren't too concerned that the old designs were similar.The smoked the hell out of Lincoln in sales!Just sounds like the only thing the Lincoln guys can say about Cadillac,just take a look at sales.By the way,the new designs are not totally similar.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90

And apparently a lot of people aren't too concerned that the old designs were similar.The smoked the hell out of Lincoln in sales!Just sounds like the only thing the Lincoln guys can say about Cadillac,just take a look at sales.By the way,the new designs are not totally similar.

yeah because all the rappers buy them!

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90

Just because the Navi's interior is distinct from the Expedition's,does not make it nice.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not going to put down $50K+ for something that looks like a rebuild of a cheaper Tahoe.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

all it is, is a chevy blazer with a body kit!

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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yeah because all the rappers buy them!

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Well, I don't know about you, but I'm not going to put down $50K+ for something that looks like a rebuild of a cheaper Tahoe.

Well I guess not too many people are like you.Because sales show it.And even the Tahoe was better quality than the Navigator,yet alone the Escalade.

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all it is, is a chevy blazer with a body kit!

Its a little more than that bud.Now I could say this and it is true.All the TC is is a Crown Vic with wheels instead of hubcaps.The Mark LT is a F-150 with a fountain grill.The only Lincoln that thats not true for is the Navigator,partly.It still looks like an expedition on the outside.

Posted by: 95ltc

I dont like it, i hate the front! I like the current model, it is square, but its tough. The new one looks like some pussy french piece of shtt.

Posted by: Nakoa

i litterally laughed when i saw the front end. omg. thats saaaaaaad. i hope they release it. it will make the navi even more attractive.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90

Again,it doesn't matter.Sales stilll smoke the Lincolns.You say that the rappers buy the Escalades.How come they don't choose the Navigator instead.Its quite clear to me.You should have more back up than that,or its not worth posting.

Well I guess not too many people are like you.Because sales show it.And even the Tahoe was better quality than the Navigator,yet alone the Escalade.

Its a little more than that bud.Now I could say this and it is true.All the TC is is a Crown Vic with wheels instead of hubcaps.The Mark LT is a F-150 with a fountain grill.The only Lincoln that thats not true for is the Navigator,partly.It still looks like an expedition on the outside.

dude every car manufacturer uses the same platform to build on different cars. ford escort is a S type Jag, so is the lincoln LS, T-bird... etc.
back in the mid 80's you have the markVII, t-bird, cougar all were based off the same platform. yes i know the crown vic is a TC so is the mercury grand marquis. chevy caprice same platform as the impala SS. navi is and expedition, the avi, is a explorer. toyota 4 Runner is on the same platform as the lexus GX, and the LX is a Seqouia and Land Cruiser married together. the GS is a toyota camry on steriods. i can go on and on..... but i wont. bye!!!

Posted by: Nakoa

no point in arguing with cpedckville. hes as belligerantly an a$$hole as any lincoln enthusiast. too bad hes driving the wrong cars.

rappers buy cadillac because its a name. when in reality they should be driving the car that was named after the guy who helped free their great great grandfathers so their talentless a$$es could capitalize on a mediocre form of music that appeals to a mediocre people.

navi>escalon yukillade
Mark LT>Escalanche
tc, ls, zephyr> the rest of whatever it is cadillac is offering these days.

Posted by: Nakoa

I will say this, atleast THIS rear end doesnt look like a chrysler new yorker.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by Nakoa

no point in arguing with cpedckville. hes as belligerantly an a$$hole as any lincoln enthusiast. too bad hes driving the wrong cars.

rappers buy cadillac because its a name. when in reality they should be driving the car that was named after the guy who helped free their great great grandfathers so their talentless a$$es could capitalize on a mediocre form of music that appeals to a mediocre people.

navi>escalon yukillade
Mark LT>Escalanche
tc, ls, zephyr> the rest of whatever it is cadillac is offering these days.

bro please no name calling here, LvC is not about causing a flame war. it is his choice if it drives a caddy, and that he loves them. i like certain rattillacs.... oooops did i say that....lol no serioulsly i do like some caddies. i love the XLR-V and CTS-V those are hot cars.

Posted by: Nakoa

you missed what i meant about "as belligerantly an

as any lincoln enthusiast". not meant to be insulting to anyone.

Posted by: Nakoa

omg, it looks like a mix between that piggy looking dodge suv and a chevy(maybe its gmc?) cargovan.. woah.

Posted by: Nakoa

and no, i dont think everything lincoln does is great. the 07 aviator is going to be another egg mobile.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

ok my fault bro, i re-read what you said on that previous post. lol but see the thing about me is i like cars in general, not just lincoln! i blame my good friend jack for getting me into the mark scene. and after a couple runs in his 94 i was sold. but that is a totally different story.

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by Nakoa

and no, i dont think everything lincoln does is great. the 07 aviator is going to be another egg mobile.

what's wrong with an eggmobile? it'll get better gas mileage than 17 mpg on the highway, that's for sure!

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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i litterally laughed when i saw the front end. omg. thats saaaaaaad. i hope they release it. it will make the navi even more attractive.

Again.Granted,your entitled to your opinion.But sales don't lie.You like how the Navi looks over the Lade.More of the high luxury SUV class buying people like the Lade.Hence they sell nearly twice as much.And judging how there is a very strong resemblence between the old Lades and the new ones,I will say with confidence that sales will remain strong.Im also willing to say even stronger than before because the new Lades are coming with a huge interior and exterior facelift.And its coming with more.Its offering more than the Navi.

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Your absolutly right.But none of those platforms are 25 years old.

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no point in arguing with cpedckville. hes as belligerantly an a$$hole as any lincoln enthusiast. too bad hes driving the wrong cars.

To start off,I usually refuse to acknowledge anyone who tries to post with big words but can't spell them.This shows lack of intelligence and theres no point in arguing with someone like that.Second,instead of getting hot headed online and using insults to try to prove a point,try doing some research before posting so you can base your thoughts off something else than opinion.How you like the way something looks over another means nothing.It is impossible to form an argument with opinions.Facts must be brought into the mix.This insulting also is another sign of lack of intelligence and most of all,immaturity.It makes me wonder whether your actually old enough to drive or if you just turned 9.

SO...
Lesson one: Do your research before posting ignorant crap such as I like Navigators more than Escalades and expect to start a intelligent argument.You'll make much more sense and people will like you more.

Lesson two:Stop your insults.Ive been seeing them around the boards and there really quite stupid and arrogant.Grow up,and start acting like you know a thing or two about automobiles.Which I have faith that you do,you just have yet to show it.This will also boost your liking status around the boards.

Oh and its actually belligerently,not "belligerantly".

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rappers buy cadillac because its a name. when in reality they should be driving the car that was named after the guy who helped free their great great grandfathers so their talentless a$$es could capitalize on a mediocre form of music that appeals to a mediocre people.

Well,I guess they earned themselves a damn good name.If they double Lincoln in sales then something good has had to been going on in the minds of the Cadillac engineers for the past 103 years.

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navi>escalon yukillade
Mark LT>Escalanche
tc, ls, zephyr> the rest of whatever it is cadillac is offering these days.

You have your opinion.And I respect that.I don't criticise or insult you because you like Lincolns.Form an intelligent argument or discussion and I guarentee that you will be taken more seriously.

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I will say this, atleast THIS rear end doesnt look like a chrysler new yorker.

Firstly,your picture didn't show up.Secondly,as I have stated one thousand times before,the sytling was taken from the Sixteen.And happens to look absolutly awsome.

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Thank you.I think we need more people like you around here.I agree.No criticism needed.It makes LvC a nice place to come and talk cars when theres no flame wars.

Posted by: Nakoa

aww, you just proved your worth. tyopgraphical errors are in no way a measure of ones intelligence. using a word in the right context = intelligence. typo's plague 100% of computer users world wide.

i wasnt posting a picture, i used caps on "this" to emphasize the 07 esclade.
i dont care what they "took from the 16" it looks like a chevy cargovan. look at the newer uhaul tm's.

once again, i didnt insult you, if you lack the intelligence to fathom what i meant... then please, refrain from ever replying to anything i ever post on here again.

"something good has to have been going on for the past 103 years"
subtract out 20 for the 80s and 90s, please and thank you.

blah blah blah blah blah.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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aww, you just proved your worth. tyopgraphical errors are in no way a measure of ones intelligence. using a word in the right context = intelligence. typo's plague 100% of computer users world wide.

i wasnt posting a picture, i used caps on "this" to emphasize the 07 esclade.
i dont care what they "took from the 16" it looks like a chevy cargovan. look at the newer uhaul tm's.

once again, i didnt insult you, if you lack the intelligence to fathom what i meant... then please, refrain from ever replying to anything i ever post on here again.

"something good has to have been going on for the past 103 years"
subtract out 20 for the 80s and 90s, please and thank you.

blah blah blah blah blah.

They certainly do reflect intelligence.I learned to spell in the kindergarten.Not being sure of your age,assuming its over 10,you just simply can't spell big words.Just admit it.You couldn't spell belligerently.It was just a word you heard mom use in a sentance like your's when you were,or still are, 10 years old.It wasn't a typo,you just can't spell the big ones.A typo is typing something like when you just spelled typographical wrong in your reply,its understandable.when the two keys are right next to eachother and you just simply hit the key next to the appropriate key.Another way is that while you where spending the 15 minutes sounding out belligerently,you couldn't decide whether the "e" or the "a" sounded right in the word,so you settled for "a".Its okay,some of us aren't meant to have a wide range of vocabulary.Don't feel bad.

When I said it took styling cues from the Sixteen,I was referring to the DTS,sort of like you were when you mentioned the New Yorker.It looks like a Chevy cargo van huh?At least it has lines that go someplace instead of nowhere like the Navi.The Lade has body lines that flow.Opposed to the Navi's body lines that form a box.

And I do consider you changing my user name from CpeVillStr90 to cpedckville an insult.Notice when saying cpedckville,the second syllable is meant to imply the word dick.Maybe you need to stop replying if you can't fathom your own phrases.

And actually Cadillac begin its comeback in the 90's.But the 1980's,true.The first thing you have said thats actaully factual.Contratulations.But can you really count it since all U.S. cars were in a slump in the 80's?Whats it matter now though.Nothing.Its ancient history and Cadillacs headed to the top.Now I only request that you take 40 years off for Lincoln.But I guess they don't really matter since they have never been ahead of Cadillac.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

I think we may have to close this before Nakoa escalates this to another level.Weird how this whole thread was fine until he chimed in.We were talking cars like most people do on car forums.But I guess some people aren't just there in the head yet and can't handle someone saying something negative about a car they like.Sad,yes,very.Its seems as if Nakoa is getting even more and more steamed behind that computer screen.And he may end up saying something not very nice.This thread is now useless.Thanks Nakoa.

Posted by: Nakoa

no, it was not meant to be dick. i often call the deville a "duckville" because of the ducks on the older insignia. "quakillac duckville".

Posted by: Nakoa

oh your posts are so intelligent and you are such a kind, all-knowing, level headed, analytically minded great guy! you sure hit all of that on the head.

how did you ever figure me out?

::sarcasm off::

Posted by: Brozly

Aw, come'on guys, their all just copies of the Jeep Cherokee...
(And No I can't spell either)

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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oh your posts are so intelligent and you are such a kind, all-knowing, level headed, analytically minded great guy! you sure hit all of that on the head.

You know,after hearing such a sweet comment like that,I must say the same about you!I never knew there could be such kindness in the world!

Want to go out for ice cream now?

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Aw, come'on guys, their all just copies of the Jeep Cherokee...

Which we all know is a copie of the Kia Sportage EOE(which stands for Extreme Off-Roading Edition.)

Posted by: TownCar97

the town car interior looks nothing like the crown vic, you are the crazy one

Posted by: Nakoa

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Originally Posted by CpeVillStr90

You know,after hearing such a sweet comment like that,I must say the same about you!I never knew there could be such kindness in the world!

Want to go out for ice cream now?

hahah thanks for the laugh.

yeah, we can go out for ice cream, have sleepovers, be superstellarbestfriendsforever, tell each other secrets and talk about our crushes.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

I in no way want to imply that if it has a Cadillac symbol on it it is a piece of crap. I do want to imply that as I stated before-the only reason Escalade was made was to compete with the Navigator. That can not be argued. More importantly the Escalade had miserable sales until the redesign in 2002 which is when the "all powerful" 6.0 came out as an OPTIONAL engine in the AWD models. As for the rappers not choosing the Lincoln I just saw a "Punked" where the Ying Yang twins were driving a 2005 Navi, I also seem to remember the "Sean John" limited edition 2003 Navi that was fully customized for the customer from P. Diddy himself. These people can roll in any car made, there must be a reason they chose not to buy the Escalade. Maybe just for the sake of not being like everyone else. The main problem I have with GM is the "This worked with this car lets throw it in to 4 other versions and call them ALL-NEW!" Granted all car companies platform share-but at least get some original ideas for a $60,000.00 car!! I do like some of Cadillacs cars- they are not strait mimics of other models, maybe thats why. Let's all not forget that Ford also owns Land Rover, Jaguar, and Aston Martin along with Lincoln. It is more difficult to juggle 4 luxury companies than it is for GM to juggle one.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

By the way, Almighty GM has lost a record 4 billion dollars so far this year. I just read an article saying that there is a 40% chance of them being bankrupt by 2007. Even if the Escalade out sells tha Navi one car can not pull them out of that.

Posted by: Aviatorguy

Well Ford is not much better off financially than GM and they also must develop fresh products in order to compete with the foreign car makers. Even though there has been a lot of improvement in quality most American cars still fall short of the Toyota's, Lexus, Audi, VW, Mercedes, and BMW. I hope that Ford will take advantage of thieir ownership of Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover to improve on their quality and safety record. One SUV that puts both the Navigator and Escalade to shame in safety and technology features is the Infiniti QX56. This vehicle is $6000-8000 cheaper than a fully loaded Navigator and around $10,000 cheaper than the current Escalade. It has all the bells and whistles. And what is it? A Nissian Armada. But it is a good value for your money. People do not seem to care that it is really a gussied up Armada. Is it worth it at $55,000? We can get alot of agruments about that, but bottom line there are alot of people paying that price and THAT is what really counts!!!!!

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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I in no way want to imply that if it has a Cadillac symbol on it it is a piece of crap. I do want to imply that as I stated before-the only reason Escalade was made was to compete with the Navigator. That can not be argued. More importantly the Escalade had miserable sales until the redesign in 2002 which is when the "all powerful" 6.0 came out as an OPTIONAL engine in the AWD models. As for the rappers not choosing the Lincoln I just saw a "Punked" where the Ying Yang twins were driving a 2005 Navi, I also seem to remember the "Sean John" limited edition 2003 Navi that was fully customized for the customer from P. Diddy himself. These people can roll in any car made, there must be a reason they chose not to buy the Escalade. Maybe just for the sake of not being like everyone else. The main problem I have with GM is the "This worked with this car lets throw it in to 4 other versions and call them ALL-NEW!" Granted all car companies platform share-but at least get some original ideas for a $60,000.00 car!! I do like some of Cadillacs cars- they are not strait mimics of other models, maybe thats why. Let's all not forget that Ford also owns Land Rover, Jaguar, and Aston Martin along with Lincoln. It is more difficult to juggle 4 luxury companies than it is for GM to juggle one.

You are right when you said the the Escalade was created to compete with the Navigator.As it was rushed into production.Thats only part of the reason though.It was also created for the same reason the Navigator was.The luxury SUV market started getting bigger and bigger around that time.Cadillac not only needed to make something to compete with Lincoln,but also the likes of BMW,MB,and Lexus.And I will agree that the Navigator had the Escalade beat in sales for a few years.The Escalade took the throne in 2001 though.And has nearly doubled Navigator in sales ever since.This is because Lincoln sat back while Cadillac took ahold of the rope and improved the Escalade.And much more celebrities buy Escalades over Navigators.You have that problem with GM?You must hate Ford then.Ford Crown Vic=Grand Marquis=TownCar.FordTaurus=Sable=Continental.Ford Thunderbird=Mercury Cougar=Lincoln Mark series.Ford Escape=Mercury Mariner=Lincoln Aviator.Ford Expedition=Mercury Mountineer=Lincoln Navigator.And Ford just owns those manufacturers.Which means they profit off them.There still managed by the same people.

Ford has lost quite a bit too.The auto industry as a whole is in a crappy bind right now.

Posted by: s2gordon

I like how the new Escalade looks, GM has uped the stakes now it's up to Ford/Lincoln to respond. 400HP V8, Lincoln can not carry over the 300 HP V8 again like they did when the 2nd Gen Navi came about. They need to bump it up, i would hope to at least 380 hp. They also need to do a style it a little bit more aggressive. I would love to see a navigator from the side and not have to guess whether it's an expedition or a navigator.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

The Navigator,like the LS has a lot of potential.Lincoln just refuses to improve upon.Which is sad.I will say Lincoln was once a great car,up until the early 70's.And the 90's Marks were a bueatiful car.I won't take that from them.But with the butchering of the Mark series,and the soon to be LS,I think Lincoln has nothing going for them.Which is why I have lost all respect I once had for them.Give me a old Continental with suicide doors anyday and it will make me a nice weekender,give me a 2004 Town Car and I'll sell it for a Deville.Lincoln,all though has always been behind Cadillac,was once nearly up to par.But as of todays cars,I don't even think you Lincoln guys can say that.Which I have heard all over that the LS was being cancelled.This car has A LOT of potential,and its a shame Ford is killing it instead of investing to make it better.

Posted by: Nakoa

63 continental. pure sex right there man. this old cat down the street from me has one, it was almost mine in high school for 300 bucks. needs major engine overhauling. still has it. im sure i could buy it off of him still. been thinking real hard about it, that would be awesome to own. ive wanted it since i was about 11 yrs old.

Posted by: LincMark_7&8

How about some one look up some Lincoln firsts or for that matter Ford firsts. I have Ford Linc Mercury running in my blood. I liked the prevoius Escalade but this one looks wierd I guess it will take some getting used to.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

Like I said all manufacturers platform share but can you justify a Trail blazer/Envoy/Rainier/Ascender/Saab version? all the identical car with identical seats, steering wheel, instrument cluster etc, etc. Same thing with ANY of Gm's full size tucks, suvs(Tahoe,Yukon,Escalade, Hummer Sut, Hummer H2, Yukon Denali, Avalanche, Escalade Ext, Escalade Esv, Suburban, Yukon XL, Sierra, Sierra HD, Silverado, Silverado HD, Sierra Denali). Let's see, for Ford (I'm commenting on trucks and suvs.) we have Mark LT/F-150.
Mountaineer/Explorer (I don't see a Volvo, Mazda, Land Rover, or Jag version of those). (They don't make the Aviator anymore, more importantly there was not an interior piece besides the headliner that interchanged with the Explorer.) Also the Escape/Mariner/Tribute. Thats all-Expeditions and Navigators do not have any resemblance interior-wise to each other. I do not dislike anybody for their opinions, and can agree to disagree, but I stand by my observances. By the way what year did GM buy Cadillac?

Posted by: LincMark_7&8

yeah

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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we have Mark LT/F-150.
Mountaineer/Explorer (I don't see a Volvo, Mazda, Land Rover, or Jag version of those). (They don't make the Aviator anymore, more importantly there was not an interior piece besides the headliner that interchanged with the Explorer.) Also the Escape/Mariner/Tribute. Thats all-Expeditions and Navigators do not have any resemblance interior-wise to each other. I do not dislike anybody for their opinions, and can agree to disagree, but I stand by my observances. By the way what year did GM buy Cadillac?

Thats because as I stated before Ford does not manage those companies.Ford ONLY profits off them.They manage themselves.GM manages every manufacturer they own.GM has to work with all those companies and there in a slight financial bind at the moment along with the rest of the automotive industry.

How come the Aviator isn't made anymore?Is it because they were a complete failure?

GM purchased Cadillac on July 29,1909.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

who said the aviator was discontinued? last time i checked FLM is still selling it.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

Honestly,I have no idea.I was going by what this guy said.I was shocked when I heard it.

Posted by: LincMark_7&8

http://www.autoextremist.com/index.shtml

A good site to find out why Detroit is suffering.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

Aviator was discontinued in 2005. It will come out again in 2007 as a cross-over vehicle with the 3.5 V6. Supposedly it did not sell as well as they thought it would, although suprisingly I see more of them where I live than I do Navi's. Probably just a demographical thing.

Posted by: MarkOfDeath

nice cts, i mean dts, wait sts

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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nice cts, i mean dts, wait sts

All new Cadillacs share the same design cues.Doesn't mean they look exactly alike.Theres a big difference inside and out on all those three.Lincolns hardly share any design cues.Besides the grills on Lincoln of today.If you took the grills of the Town Car,Zephyr,Navigator and LS you would think they all belong to 4 different brands.They don't share design cues like BMW's,Audi's,Mercedes Benz's,Cadillac's,and just about all manufacturers do today.When you see a CTS coming from a distance,you know it's Cadillac.When you see a Town Car coming from a distance,your never sure if it's a Town Car,or a Grand Marquie,or Crown Vic.Or the bland styling of the LS,which shows no cues with anyother Lincoln,besides that grill ofcourse.Get stuck behind a Zephyr,or wait,is that a '97 Honda Accord?Damn,too hard to tell.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

I disagree, they all have the trademark waterfall grille. There is no other car than the LS that looks like a LS if you can't tell what it is then you just are not familiar enough with the car to recognize it.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

I focused on the grill as Lincoln's only cue that they all share.Nothing else is similar on Lincolns.What I said is that none of them look alike.None of them share the same cues BUT the grill.I know what the LS is.I can recognise it.Any car enthusiasts can recognize any car.However most people aren't automotive enthuiasts.What I said is that most people don't know that an LS is an LS(or a Lincoln for that matter) when it's coming toward them.Most people know a CTS is a CTS(and a Cadillac)when they see one coming toward them.Why?Because all Cadillacs share design cues.The egg crate grill,the edgy body styling,the stacks headlights,the stacked tail lights.Cadillacs also used to have stacked headlights and have always had vertical tails.So Cadillac made a major change in their design theme but still kept the classic Cadillac cues.Lincolns share a grill,thats it.And nothing with their ancestors.I also never said the LS looks like other vehicles.But the styling is very bland,plain and boring.So its not too much of a plus on Lincolns side.But now that you mention it the back of the LS does look a lot like my neighbor's '96 Honda Accord backside.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

And the front end on the LS looks a lot like a 1998-ish Mitsubishi Diamante.It almost totally resembles the Diamante.

Posted by: captainalias

some better pics of the Escalade- looks somewhat improved in these shots, but I still think it looks too much like a rebadged Tahoe. I still can't believe they're using a steering wheel mounted shifter!

Posted by: captainalias

although, I have to say the escalade interior looks warmer than this ML350, which looks too 'cold'.

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by Lincoln Luebbe

I disagree, they all have the trademark waterfall grille. There is no other car than the LS that looks like a LS if you can't tell what it is then you just are not familiar enough with the car to recognize it.

With the upcoming 2007 Aviator, they're moving away from the waterfall grille to a new crosshatch grille, which IMO, looks fugly.

Posted by: captainalias

For the same reasons that I don't like the Escalade for being a rebadged Tahoe, I don't like the Mark LT either- looks like they just slapped some nickel chrome and wood on the F-150.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

i am telling you all those buttons they do nothing for me. all i need is buttons for the a/c, heat, windows up/down, and the radio!

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by JoeyLincolnMK8

i am telling you all those buttons they do nothing for me. all i need is buttons for the a/c, heat, windows up/down, and the radio!

They should just remove the buttons and have everything respond to your clapping. one clap for windows, 2 claps for ac/heat, 3 claps for radio, etc...

Posted by: captainalias

btw, anyone else think the wood on the MarkLT looks really fake?

I have to say that the wood on the new Zephyr looks great, and very authentic. Have yet to see another car with that kind of wood treatment.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

The Escalade interior looks very cozy.I like how they didn't go overboard with it.It's a very nice,smooth layout.Anyone know of a EXT or ESV model for the first year of the new design?The EXT would be interesting to see.Especially wihtout the same plain-jane 17inch brushed aluminum wheels.I agree that the wood in the LT looks very fake.It doesn't look very polished like most wood you see.And being the only piece of wood in the truck,it sticks out like a sore thumb and thats in a bad way.The best wood I have seen is the Zebrano in my Eldorado.And no Im not just saying that because im a Cadillac guy either.It really is very nice.One thing I do like very much in the Mark LT though is that the seats are outlined with black trim.It looks very good.And the Lincoln emblem on the center arm rest adds a nice touch too.Everything else is just plastic which shouldn't be in a Lincoln.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

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Originally Posted by captainalias

They should just remove the buttons and have everything respond to your clapping. one clap for windows, 2 claps for ac/heat, 3 claps for radio, etc...

yeah i heard lexus is going to be adding those next year, on top of voice activated start!

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by JoeyLincolnMK8

yeah i heard lexus is going to be adding those next year, on top of voice activated start!

for real? It will go crazy if you're next to an applauding crowd.

Posted by: captainalias

like I was saying about the authenticity of the Zephyr's wood trim....

Posted by: Nakoa

New escalade inerior is SHARP! im glad they dumped that ugly a$$ zebranao for something a little classier. Doesnt look like every other plain jane gm products interior. They really hit it wit the interior on the dts and this new escalade.. too bad the front ends are uglier than hell and look like fat cts's.

The wood in the mark lt is maccassar ebony, and afaik its real. i can see some of you not liking it, but i f*cking love it. as stated before, its a rebadged f150, but it looks better than the f150.. whereas the escalanche looks just as bad as the avalance.
there are a couple of guys around here who have siverado 1500s that they have put mid 90's deville tail lights on, escalade front end and a few other things. pretty cool trucks, they dont even have to change the interior. ;-)

Lincoln better up the navigators power, thats seems to be what really sells cars these days.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

The wood its self in the Zephyr looks OK.I still like my zebrano a lot more.I don't think wood trim goes with that interior either.Wood and brushed aluminum definatly don't go well together.

Fake or real wood trim in the Mark 150,it still looks fake,and still looks like crap.You can't toss one piece of wood in a all black and silver plastic interior and expect it to look good.Because it doesn't.I think looks is an opinion.I think that both the Avalanche and Escalade are great looking.The Escalade just looks amazing though,which has a lot to do with its awsome sales.It is impossible for me to mistake a Avalanche for a Escalade coming down the road.And nearly impossible for anyone else.But,it is very easy for me and anyone else to mistake a F-LT for a Mark 150 coming down the road.Lincon didn't do ANYTHING different with the Mark LT other than the grill and the two reflectors on the tail gate.At least GM changed the shape of the healights,the tail lights,the grill,and added some body cladding that looks rather good to make it quite distinct from the Avalanche/Yukon.

Posted by: captainalias

the Mark LT doesn't even come with standard HIDs. I think Lincoln could've done more with the LT than what they did.

Posted by: JoeyLincolnMK8

yeah first, they should of gave it a different name. instead they (Ford) disrespected the Mark nameplate, by giving it to a truck!

Posted by: Nakoa

i think there are better things in store for the mark lt in the coming years. it happens to be the sexiest truck on the road, imo... so if i were in the market for a truck, thats the one for me. i do, admittedly, have a hard time calling it a lincoln. well see what 07 has in store for the lt.
i think the interior is quite cool, though it does need some updating.

zephyr interior is weird looking at first.. im not much of a fan of flamed maple(or birdseye in lexus's case), and definately think it looks odd in a car. but the more i see the interior the more i like it. i like how the wood inserts are on the side of the steering wheel. really unique.

the wood steering wheel in the new escalade is cool, reminescent of the wood wheel in an infinity. i dig it too.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

For 2007 the Mark LT is getting navigation (with an upgraded THX sound system I'm sure..), 20's and some other minor changes. They always make improvements the second production year.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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i think the interior is quite cool, though it does need some updating.

I don't think it needs updating.The interior is VERY modern looking.It follows every other new Ford design.Its just that Ford made the mistake GM did by not changing the interior.And also in my opinion they should have added more wood if they were going to add wood at all instead of one little piece.

Posted by: Nakoa

if im not mistaken, there are some wood pieces on the doors as well.the problem with the wood in the lt is its so dark and so is the interior. i think they should offer different types of wood for different interior colors. i think the ebony would look great with an interior the color of the escalades up there. but the new esca interior is more along the lines of something i would like. its more car-like.

Posted by: Nakoa

and its real ebony. alot more expensive than the zebrano cadillac was using.

a few people down the street from me own these, im glad theyre selling.

Posted by: captainalias

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Originally Posted by Nakoa

i think there are better things in store for the mark lt in the coming years. it happens to be the sexiest truck on the road, imo... so if i were in the market for a truck, thats the one for me. i do, admittedly, have a hard time calling it a lincoln. well see what 07 has in store for the lt.
i think the interior is quite cool, though it does need some updating.

zephyr interior is weird looking at first.. im not much of a fan of flamed maple(or birdseye in lexus's case), and definately think it looks odd in a car. but the more i see the interior the more i like it. i like how the wood inserts are on the side of the steering wheel. really unique.

the wood steering wheel in the new escalade is cool, reminescent of the wood wheel in an infinity. i dig it too.

I'm not a big fan of the maple either, but they also have a darker colored wood for black and gray interiors that looks fantastic. I like the overall look of the Zephyr wood- just doesn't look as plasticky.

Posted by: captainalias

Are the Mark LT's seats individual to the mark, or do they come on the F-150 as well? They look like comfy captain's chairs...

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

That same wood is in the F-150 King Ranch also.Captain,they are the same seats in the King Ranch.

And wood that cost more doesn't necessarily make it better.My Zebrano looks 10 times better than ebony.

Posted by: Nakoa

theyre a litle different than the king ranch seats. no, price doesnt make anything look better(look at mercedes), im a fan of ebony, so i think its pretty hot.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

There is no difference at all in the seats other than a line a stitching going down the middle on the Mark LT.Other than that there the same.You don't even notice the difference.

Posted by: ohioLS

FUGLY, the old esclade style was the ticket. Sorry I just couldnt pay that much for something that is that ugly. Rather spend the money on the RangeRover Sport. Come on like all the previous post say its just rebaged tahoe.

-Scott-

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

The old Escalade style only could have been around for so long before people started getting sick of it.It was is desperate need for a change.Inside and out.Though it was still bueatiful nontheless.This new one is the ticket.Its just was Cadillac needs.This will sell better than the previous ones,im willing to bet that.

The old one may have been a rebadged Tahoe.That is not the story with this one though.They are very different.And another step forward to blowing away the Navigator even more.

Posted by: YouthKwest

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1992,Cadillac introduces the worlds first 32 valve V8 engine,the amazing Northstar

funny...having owned a 1985 Porsche 928 and it had a 5.0L DOHC V8...wierd how that goes, so maybe Cadillac copied Porsche. Who gives a rat's tushy about which one is better or not. The Escalade has the new 6.2L 400hp motor over the Lincoln. The Lincoln has real wood...joy.

I like the new Escalade, but is it better than the Lincoln??? Only will the owner of both at the same time will be able to answer that one.

Posted by: Lincoln Luebbe

Please look at the Yuhon and Tahoe interiors for 2007 and then make read your last statement.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

Hmm,your right YouthKwest.I'll have to leave a comment at the resource I got that from.Maybe they meant its the first American 32V V8.

Lincoln,the interiors on the new Yukon/Escalades are different.Maybe you ought to look at the pictures again if you couldn't tell.

Posted by: Dominus

CpeVill, you have got Cadillac so far up your bottom end, I'm shocked an Escalade hasn't worked its way up and rolled straight out of your mouth.

Normally, I wouldn't even comment on somebody's conduct, but your posts are some amazing anti-Lincoln and Cadillac biased that one would think Lincoln shot yoru wife, and cadillac was that doctor who saved her life.

I can understand some people liking their brands, but you take the cake, the fork, the plate, and the bowl its ingredients were mixed in.

Posted by: KC_Steve

Are there any pics of what the new Escalade EXT will look like??

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

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CpeVill, you have got Cadillac so far up your bottom end, I'm shocked an Escalade hasn't worked its way up and rolled straight out of your mouth.

Normally, I wouldn't even comment on somebody's conduct, but your posts are some amazing anti-Lincoln and Cadillac biased that one would think Lincoln shot yoru wife, and cadillac was that doctor who saved her life.

I can understand some people liking their brands, but you take the cake, the fork, the plate, and the bowl its ingredients were mixed in.

...Im glad you threw in your 2 cents...

I like Cadillacs.Not so much Lincolns.Maybe Im biased,I am a Caddy man.I like the cars.Ive driven just about every kind of Lincoln thats been built.I have experience from both worlds.I know what the better automobile is.This is a discussion board,is it not?We discuss cars here,that is what we do.If everybody liked every brand then this place would be boring.I don't think I have Cadillac up my "bottom end".I think you are just astonished of my knowledge on these cars.I make a huge post on something and now I got Cadillac up my as$?Please,your post was completely pointless.Lets stick to the topic.Got a comment on how I post?PM me,because as you can see,its been over a month since your post and nobody has replied to it,until now.Evidently nobody cares.

Posted by: CpeVillStr90

KC,I asked about that in an earlier post.I haven't found anything on an EXT.Im dieing to know what it will look like.I'll keep you posted though if I do find anything.

Posted by: escalade1229

hah the new navigator looks like

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http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/08/t...oln-navigator/

Posted by: Nakoa

i hated the pictures, it looks WAY better in real life.

Posted by: Filthy Sanchez

For the most part I like it, except the ugly grill and headlights. Never liked the new Caddie "EDGY" styling. I think top brass told the artist to be edgy and they took them to literally. Other than that they did a good job, I do like the fender vents ala Range Rover. The overall body looks good, much like the new Tahoe looks smoother, and the Avalanche dropped the ugly squint look.

Posted by: ScottySRF

You seem to have a real nice site here. I'm planning on buying new rides for me and the wife this year. Really I wanted her to get an Escalade last year but felt it best to wait for the new tranny and engine. I want and EXT.

I have to say that pictures just do not tell the story on this vehicle ... or any vehicle for that matter. A flat two dimensional representation just cannot convey the reality of such a large object. I'm a photographer by the way. A case in point is the front end shot of a white '07 earlier in this thread. That shot is so tortured by lens distortion as to be funny actually.

I hope some one who has taken the plunge as an early adopter will soon let us all in on the ride and performance of the '07 Esky. I think Edmonds must be boycotting it or something. I'm quite satisfied with the looks. I was able to examine one and sit in it and got the $.50 tour but there is just nothing to drive anywhere. They are sold before the dealer ever sees them. I was truly impressed with the truck both inside and out. It is very classy in a typical American bravura sort of way. The power folding seats are nice. Too bad they don't fold flat but then it'd be a minivan and I certainly don't want that. I really wonder about this 6 speed. That's a BIG gamble. If it hunts in the hills that would kill the deal for me.

Refering back to the picture of the Rangerover on the first page. It surprises me that people rave about this styling. To me it is very odd looking. Sort of like something someone in the fifties might have designed if they were told to keep it very square. That little brim in the back actually looks silly. But there is no accounting for taste. To each his own.

My response to the Lincoln lovers here regarding the Navigator is .... sorry. Navigator is a nice truck but that grill they put on it for '07 (maybe it's '06 I don't know) is really cartoonish. Unbelievable really.

Anyway ... go look at the truck. The whole package is pretty darn nice and much better than the pics.

Scotty

Posted by: 05RoushMarkLT

Caddy is definately up on Lincoln in the power department. Unfortunately both the escalade and navigators don't seem to be hitting it right with their styling for the new models. Lincoln will soon catch up and pass caddy and all the other suv/truck V-8's with their Hurricane engines. A 6.2L V-8 will be introduced in either 2008 or 2009. Probably will be too little, too late by then.

I test drove both the escalade pickup and the LT when I was truck shopping last year. The escalade had a very nice ride, and the extra power was noticeable. I've always been a Ford guy, and the Escalades just seem to fadish to me. I finally decided on getting a F-150 and just doing the Mark LT conversion, minus the parts I didn't like. I'm an Alaskan boy, so leather isn't my best friend. I also didn't like the chrome bumpers or cladding, so I went with a monotone look instead. Also, Lincoln didn't choose red in their limited line up of colors, so I took that issue into my own hands as well. Now I've got a one of a kind with horsepower (thanks to whipple) that will keep both the caddy's and the LT's in my rear view mirror. All in all I spent about 10 grand less than an escalade, and a few thousand less than a LT, and that includes lowered suspension, supercharger and 22" wheels/tires. Lincoln did a piss poor job with their LT's, and needs to restyle them completely different than the F-150's to make some sales. I doubt anything will catch up with the Escalades though, they have become too popular, and too many people will do what they can (including getting into nightmareish leases) to have one.

Posted by: StRyKr

with all the craze(07s) the 02-06 models should be alot cheaper to bargain with since many dealers are trying to get them out of their inventory, to make room for the 07s...

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