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ABS Pump replacement / bleeding /cycling

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Posted by: jrhartman

My '97 needs to have the ABS pump replaced, I have found it and it looks to be a snap to pull out and replace. I have read that the ABS Pump needs to be "cycled" to bleed the ABS system correctly. The instructions that I have seen on the bleeding procedure require and >$2k scanning tool. :wtf: Is there any other way to cycle the ABS pump so I can properly bleed the system after I put in the new pump?

I tried to search under "ABS bleeding" but this system won't search "ABS" it just pulls back results for "bleeding" and I couldn't find the info that I need.

Thanks in advance for you help.

Posted by: bigdog1279

I've been trying to find that stuff out also and shat iv come to is that very few smaller shops have abs equipment.

The best place to do abs is the Dealership where you car brand is from like in our case a Lincoln dealership because every manufacturer, from what someone told me, its to much money for a shop to buy the computer stuff for abs for every car out there so yes I say take it to the dealer to have it done right. Sorry I know its not the answer you wanted I have the same problem

Posted by: jrhartman

bigdog: almost everyone of your incoherant posts almost always ends with "take it to the dealer", which is not always the answer

does anyone know if the unit at the link below will do the job?

http://www.thexton.com/vshop/shopexd...d=115&catid=36

Posted by: JMiles_T

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhartman

does anyone know if the unit at the link below will do the job?

http://www.thexton.com/vshop/shopexd...d=115&catid=36

I don't know if it works, but I'm glad you posted that link. For $44, it's definately worth looking into.

Posted by: bigdog1279

oh incoherant you can shure yous big words cant you
LOL
well ill tell you whats somthing i can do myself and what i can and what i know not to

with i go to the dealer for
maybe you guys dont have a good dealer but we got the best lincoln dealer in the country and
i pay less then everyone els on labor lol
so why dont you take your incoherance ass and s it

Posted by: Grifter

NO
that unit will NOT work on a 97..

i am in the SAME boat.. i need to bleed my abs pump too.. that tool is for a Teves Mark IV system, 97 and 98 have a Teves Mark 20 system. the tool is not compatible. trust me, i have one sitting on the front seat of my 97 that isnt any good to me..
I am going to try the redneck ABS bleed method. drive the car up the block hit the brakes and let the ABS cycle and MAYBE pump the air out.. its worth a shot..

Posted by: Grifter

and i might end up at a shop in the end anyway, depends on the outcome of the driving method...

Posted by: American Air-1

The ONLY way your going to get all the air out of the system, is to use the right tool. What will happen is that the brakes will work o.k. until you least expect a problem. In other words, when you make a panic stop one day the pedal with go to the floor.

The actual tool you need is the adaptor that connects the wiring harness of the car to a Ford breakout box. If all you need to do is bleed the system after replacing a hard part, you simply put the adaptor on end of the harness and switch it from "harness" to "bleed". Then hit the button. Unfortunately, the dealer is probably going to be the only one with this adaptor.

Good luck.

Posted by: bigdog1279

thank you if there is one thing i know
its what the dealer has and what lttle shops cant do
the dealer is the only one with teh right stuff for all abs on your car
trust me
say you when to sears and they did breaks and abs
well they cant realy advaradize abs
couse they dont have 1million dollars to spend on all the aquipment for each moddle yes thats 1million dollars for abs for every car for ford
another million for chrysler so on and so on

Posted by: Grifter

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Air-1

The ONLY way your going to get all the air out of the system, is to use the right tool. What will happen is that the brakes will work o.k. until you least expect a problem. In other words, when you make a panic stop one day the pedal with go to the floor.

The actual tool you need is the adaptor that connects the wiring harness of the car to a Ford breakout box. If all you need to do is bleed the system after replacing a hard part, you simply put the adaptor on end of the harness and switch it from "harness" to "bleed". Then hit the button. Unfortunately, the dealer is probably going to be the only one with this adaptor.

Good luck.

yes, if you have a gen1.. theres an ABS connector behind the drivers headlight you can plug the Thexton 133 device into and electronically bleed it.
gen2's you need a scan tool that connects to the OBDII port.. which is, as said above, more or less $2k..
gotta love ford switching brake systems with only 2 years left in a model.. thanks alot

Posted by: jrhartman

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog1279

thank you if there is one thing i know
its what the dealer has and what lttle shops cant do
the dealer is the only one with teh right stuff for all abs on your car
trust me
say you when to sears and they did breaks and abs
well they cant realy advaradize abs
couse they dont have 1million dollars to spend on all the aquipment for each moddle yes thats 1million dollars for abs for every car for ford
another million for chrysler so on and so on

If you think dealers spend a million dollars per model for ABS equipment you are a bigger fool then I initially gave you credit for.

Posted by: bigdog1279

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhartman

If you think dealers spend a million dollars per model for ABS equipment you are a bigger fool then I initially gave you credit for.

i did not say per modle read what i sed and you know what i mean
Gm spend sproxtly a million on There cars
Chrysler spends Million on there and FOrd so on and so on
that is not Modle that is called
the actual company of the car
not modle
you are the fule
you just upset that i was right and there is no way to get it out on your gen2
like you thout and have to go where the computer is
and im saying what someone told me at a National TIre and Battershop
they sed that it would cost them millions to buy abs Aqupment
so go shut it up the whole you came from Troll

Posted by: jrhartman

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog1279

so go shut it up the whole you came from Troll

That is hilarious. I am on here trying to actually get some answers to technical questions and you call me a troll?

You are the one that has followed my every post with jibberish that is spelled so poorly that it looks like a foreign language. The purpose of these types of forums is to learn and teach others how to fix/do things themselves.

Your immediate response to anything is "take it to the dealer", which doesn't help at all.

When I asked how to replace the pump itself a member had responded with the correct procedure and you chimed in with your "take it to the dealer because you need million dollar aqupment" response.

I then asked if my system was TEVES IV or Bousch, but I found out it was TEVES Mark 20. You chimed in with "you have to take it to a shop", which had nothing to do with my question.

You tell me who the troll is? Somehow I don't see the person that is asking legitimate questions as the troll. If you don't have anything that actually contributes to the thread, please keep your unintelligible remarks out of my threads.

Posted by: bigdog1279

in another post you even sed you where gona take it to a SHop so how about that dont start somthing you can stop man
I know about this couse i had my ABS pump out and have to replace it also and have been to all the shops around her
and they cant do it all of them send me to the dealer so how about that man
see you are the one who keep changing up man

Posted by: jrhartman

Quote:

If you don't have anything that actually contributes to the thread, please keep your unintelligible remarks out of my threads.

Seriously.

Posted by: bigdog1279

how bout this if you wana post a thread take advise from anyone who wants to give it
so why dont you take you car to the shop and bug off since thats what you planning on doing anyways you begging to
Piss me Of man im outa here LOL