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Posted by: ArdenJag

just a question, is special suspension (struts actually) a sport edition of the LS??? in Ford dealer they got some listings and one says special suspension and the other is touring i guess , im having troubles here....


Posted by: GrayGhost1

Well, there are two different suspension categories for the LS and they are the base and sport. Base of course is a softer feel suspension with base shocks and a standard sway bar. The sport suspension has stiffer shocks and a slightly bigger sway bar.

Typically, the quickest way you can tell a base model LS from a sport model is the chrome strips on the bumper. The base model has chrome strips while the sport version does not.


Posted by: mholhut

There's a few different kinds. Whatever stock is classified as, and then there's "Sport" and "European" I think.


Posted by: 01lssport

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdenJag
just a question, is special suspension (struts actually) a sport edition of the LS??? in Ford dealer they got some listings and one says special suspension and the other is touring i guess , im having troubles here....
I believe that they made 3 different types:
softest to stiffest:
premium
sport
euro



Posted by: Quik LS

Quote:
Originally Posted by 01lssport
I believe that they made 3 different types:
softest to stiffest:
premium
sport
euro
Actually:
softest to stiffest:
base
sport
euro

the Premiums could order Sport suspension as an option.


Posted by: ArdenJag

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quik LS
Actually:
softest to stiffest:
base
sport
euro

the Premiums could order Sport suspension as an option.
ok thats how we go by it, but dealer has different names for those...reason im asking is my friend works for ford so i get "special treatment", my jag was non sport, so i told him to hook me up with struts from sport LS , so he looked around and came to conclusion that "special suspension" must be sport, casue its more expensive than the rest, plus when it got here , the front did look a lot beffier then my struts meanwhile the rears were the same....but thats not the issue..i got my eibach springs today , so without looking at the part numbers on the springs i went with knowledge , i did the front one first when i swapped the spring, i put back in the car and......hmmm, actually 1-2inches higher???? im like WTF....so i looked at the instruction and the other springs were for front (but i couldve swaer these for for it, even came in nicely on the stock sport struts), so when i tried to put the right spring in hmm another problem, the rubber base where spring sits its wider then the LS spring so i had to notch it a little, also went in no porblem and......hmmmm sits the same, usually on all the cars i lowered usually the car went down on the spot an inch or so, here it sits same height(maybe casue all the springs i put on previous cars were 1.8inch and lower ,you know those mazdas, nissans, etc eibach pro-kit only loweres an inch), maybe itll get there when i do a round around the block


Posted by: Quik LS

i did a search.....

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/sho...31&postcount=4


Posted by: 01lssport

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdenJag
ok thats how we go by it, but dealer has different names for those...reason im asking is my friend works for ford so i get "special treatment", my jag was non sport, so i told him to hook me up with struts from sport LS , so he looked around and came to conclusion that "special suspension" must be sport, casue its more expensive than the rest, plus when it got here , the front did look a lot beffier then my struts meanwhile the rears were the same....but thats not the issue..i got my eibach springs today , so without looking at the part numbers on the springs i went with knowledge , i did the front one first when i swapped the spring, i put back in the car and......hmmm, actually 1-2inches higher???? im like WTF....so i looked at the instruction and the other springs were for front (but i couldve swaer these for for it, even came in nicely on the stock sport struts), so when i tried to put the right spring in hmm another problem, the rubber base where spring sits its wider then the LS spring so i had to notch it a little, also went in no porblem and......hmmmm sits the same, usually on all the cars i lowered usually the car went down on the spot an inch or so, here it sits same height(maybe casue all the springs i put on previous cars were 1.8inch and lower ,you know those mazdas, nissans, etc eibach pro-kit only loweres an inch), maybe itll get there when i do a round around the block
Did you check to see if ther was any difference between the two, side by side comparison?


Posted by: Quik LS

sorry - i didn't realize you were talking about a jag.

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/sho...92&postcount=7

The platform's suspension geometry is common in castings, but aligned, tuned, and damped to produce distinct feel and control. Shock absorbers (see sidebar) and power steering valving are different as well.

Though the S-Type shares its basic architecture with the Lincoln LS, though there are many differences particularly on post-2003 models, and the Lincoln and Jaguar are completely different in character, a tribute to the engineers for both cars....



Posted by: 99 KOBRA

The LS suspension has shocks in front, not struts.


Posted by: ArdenJag

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99 KOBRA
The LS suspension has shocks in front, not struts.
huh??? which year??? i got a set of sport struts from 00 LS v8....related to my problem, its sloved it just needed to be beaten in...ride is lower now, just what i needed an inch , very happy....now to custom make the end links


Posted by: GrayGhost1

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdenJag
huh??? which year??? i got a set of sport struts from 00 LS v8....related to my problem, its sloved it just needed to be beaten in...ride is lower now, just what i needed an inch , very happy....now to custom make the end links
All 2000-2005 Lincoln LS's have front and rear coil over shocks. They do not have struts.


Posted by: GrayGhost1

Here's a part number breakdown for the shocks on the LS.

V8 ONLY:

Base Front: 1W4Z 18124-BA
Base Rear: XW4Z 18125-AA

Sport Front: 1W4Z 18124-DA
Sport Rear: XW4Z 18125-BA

Euro Front: 1W4Z 18124-FA
Euro Rear: XW4Z 18125-CA

V6 ONLY:

Base Front: 1W4Z 18124-AA
Base Rear: XW4Z 18125-AA

Sport Front: 1W4Z 18124-CA
Sport Rear: XW4Z 18125-BA

Euro Front: 1W4Z 18124-EA
Euro Rear: XW4Z 18125-CA


Posted by: 2001LS8Sport

Great info Gray!!


Posted by: ArdenJag

ok thanks very helpful info...now here the lincoln story...my friend works in the dealership and i guess linclon uses mix and match on thier struts setup....

i ordered a setup from 01 ls special suspension.. and it came as sport front and euro rear...now i gave my friend the euro front number and he says that a 02 model setup ..ohh well , as long as its firmer than stock s...i mean how much more harder is euro from sport???

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrayGhost1
Here's a part number breakdown for the shocks on the LS.

V8 ONLY:

Base Front: 1W4Z 18124-BA
Base Rear: XW4Z 18125-AA

Sport Front: 1W4Z 18124-DA
Sport Rear: XW4Z 18125-BA

Euro Front: 1W4Z 18124-FA
Euro Rear: XW4Z 18125-CA

V6 ONLY:

Base Front: 1W4Z 18124-AA
Base Rear: XW4Z 18125-AA

Sport Front: 1W4Z 18124-CA
Sport Rear: XW4Z 18125-BA

Euro Front: 1W4Z 18124-EA
Euro Rear: XW4Z 18125-CA



Posted by: 00NORCAL V8

I'm confused. I read Greys post on the color coded shocks but I have 17 inch chrome wheels on my car w/chrome on bumpers. I didn't see the 17 chrome listed only 17 alloys? I had my front shocks replaced by Lincoln would they put the shocks that my car called for or just put base in? If I look at my rears (because I believe they're still original) where would the color be and what color would be there to determine if I had sport susp? TIA




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